What are the most HATED cards?

[InfinitiveDivinity]

What? How would they not work?

[Gocougs509]

What? How would they not work?

{tajuru preserver}
{sigarda, host of herons}
{Flickerform}
{gift of immortality}

There are just a few off of the top of my head.

[PrEZchoICE1]

1vs1 is significantly different than M-player. Hence why Derevi is banned in French commander (1vs1)

That's exactly why I didn't bother to give him a response. That and the fact that I really can't stand people who talk about 1v1 edh like it's an actual format.

First off I didnt talk about 1v1 edh like it was an actual format. I said I played 1v1 EDH vs two highly competetive well built expensive commander deck and racked them both.

I really cant stand people who are sore losers and feel it necessary to build an 'example' deck to hide in the bottom of their bag in case anyone gets 'cocky'. This is MTG man nearly everyone has some bit of cockiness and or are eccentric in some way.

Here is the Official ban list and it doesnt have Derevi on it.

https://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Resources.aspx?x=magic/rules/100cardsingleton-commander

Im not particularly interested in what duelcommander has to say on the topic since they arent the ruling body on the matter. Wizards has recognized EDH as a format and has its own ban list, which is the only ban list that should matter at this time.

Now say I were to go to a tournament and they said I couldnt use derevi at their particular tournament Id be fine with that, but Im not going to go by an unofficial ban list when all Im doing is playing casual 1v1 EDH or MP EDH for my own amusement.

[Sparkle Ninja]

1vs1 is significantly different than M-player. Hence why Derevi is banned in French commander (1vs1)

That's exactly why I didn't bother to give him a response. That and the fact that I really can't stand people who talk about 1v1 edh like it's an actual format.

I play almost exclusively 1v1 EDH but I do have a few Multiplayer ones. I loveb1v1 EDH and I want it taken more seriously

[PrEZchoICE1]

1vs1 is significantly different than M-player. Hence why Derevi is banned in French commander (1vs1)

That's exactly why I didn't bother to give him a response. That and the fact that I really can't stand people who talk about 1v1 edh like it's an actual format.

I play almost exclusively 1v1 EDH but I do have a few Multiplayer ones. I loveb1v1 EDH and I want it taken more seriously

I also enjoy 1v1 as well as multiplayer commander, and I wouldnt mind playing it more competetively but the reality as of now is that its not. In time I believe it will be though.

[blackychan1]

Well he's not on THAT ban list, because that's the multiplayer ban list. Oh well, I just thought he was on the 1 v 1 ban list is all.

[Aladormax]

In the interest of back on topic, I HATE pure proxy decks. If you play edh with only proxies use a different deck. I understand if it is a money issue, but proxying cards like rampant growth, or giant growth feels wrong. Especially if they are in sleeves and perfect fits  with basics behind.

[Ekann1]

The following cards are also banned from being played as a commander :
Braids, Cabal Minion
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician
Edric, Spymaster of Trest
Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
Zur the Enchanter


http://duelcommander.com/banlist/

[PrEZchoICE1]

The following cards are also banned from being played as a commander :
Braids, Cabal Minion
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician
Edric, Spymaster of Trest
Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
Zur the Enchanter


http://duelcommander.com/banlist/

Sorry is this the official wizards banlist? Or a banlist invented by those who just dont like the given card interactions?

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

The following cards are also banned from being played as a commander :
Braids, Cabal Minion
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician
Edric, Spymaster of Trest
Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
Zur the Enchanter


http://duelcommander.com/banlist/

Sorry is this the official wizards banlist? Or a banlist invented by those who just dont like the given card interactions?

It is not an official ban list.  I see no problem with Edric, played against it many times, and it is a professional player playing the professional deck.  It isn't hard to beat.

[PrEZchoICE1]

The following cards are also banned from being played as a commander :
Braids, Cabal Minion
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician
Edric, Spymaster of Trest
Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
Zur the Enchanter


http://duelcommander.com/banlist/

Sorry is this the official wizards banlist? Or a banlist invented by those who just dont like the given card interactions?

It is not an official ban list.  I see no problem with Edric, played against it many times, and it is a professional player playing the professional deck.  It isn't hard to beat.

Good builders and players mostly feel the same way I would say. Ive beaten my derevi build with mono u azami and mono b erebos (wife's) and sharuum (friend's) I dont understand the need for her to be banned. She can be controlled one way or another just need to be well prepared. Thanks for the banned list confirmation.

[Ekann1]

I thought this was the official ban list for 1v1 tournaments but maybe I'm wrong. Can someone look on the site and tell me? I'm too tired right now... Just finished watching finals of pro tour RTR because I'd never actually seen eggs played before

[Gocougs509]

I thought this was the official ban list for 1v1 tournaments but maybe I'm wrong. Can someone look on the site and tell me? I'm too tired right now... Just finished watching finals of pro tour RTR because I'd never actually seen eggs played before

There is no official ban list for 1v1 edh, because (despite what many of the people on here might try to tell you) it's not an actual format. Wizards probably doesn't want to waste their time coming up with and constantly revising a list for such a wack play style.

That link you posted is the closest thing you'll find.

[Remillo]

I thought this was the official ban list for 1v1 tournaments but maybe I'm wrong. Can someone look on the site and tell me? I'm too tired right now... Just finished watching finals of pro tour RTR because I'd never actually seen eggs played before

What you quoted is a separate ban list known as the Duel Commander or French Rules banned list.  It was developed in France (hence, the name) to be used specifically for (hyper-)Competitive 1v1 games, and has bans done accordingly.  In that format, Edric and Derevi proved to be overwhelmingly powerful, and so the French RC banned them as commanders.  Zur was banned because they were tired of trying to ban enough of his enchantments to neuter him, and just struck the whole deck down.

Almost all discussion here, though, is about the Traditional Banned List, which is headed by Sheldon Menery and the list that Wizards posts on their site.

[Ekann1]

Yeah, that's what I thought it was. should've been more clear that it wasn't wizards' banlist. There are competitive 1v1 tournaments that use this ban list right?