Khans of Tarkir (Speculations and Spoilers)

Started by Xaol, May 18, 2014, 02:43:46 PM

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DYMongoose

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 20, 2014, 03:56:45 PM
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Here comes horsemanship...
Oh god. Why.
For the love of god please no
Ugh.... but if it makes sense anywhere, it's here. And it counts as "something old".

Looks like i picked the right time to quit buying cards. (I've said this before)
What's wrong with Horsemanship? It's pretty much unblockable, which is always printed.
It's not unblockable, it's flying... except we already have flying. It's really dumb to have 2 of the same thing with different names. (Shadow is different because it's a 2-way street. Can't block OR be blocked)

rarehuntertay

Quote from: DYMongoose on May 20, 2014, 04:12:46 PM
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Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 18, 2014, 07:59:55 PM
Here comes horsemanship...
Oh god. Why.
For the love of god please no
Ugh.... but if it makes sense anywhere, it's here. And it counts as "something old".

Looks like i picked the right time to quit buying cards. (I've said this before)
What's wrong with Horsemanship? It's pretty much unblockable, which is always printed.
It's not unblockable, it's flying... except we already have flying. It's really dumb to have 2 of the same thing with different names. (Shadow is different because it's a 2-way street. Can't block OR be blocked)

It's not flying. Flying creatures and creatures with reach cannot block horsemanship.

DYMongoose

Quote from: rarehuntertay on May 20, 2014, 04:37:56 PM
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Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 18, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on May 18, 2014, 08:00:40 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 18, 2014, 07:59:55 PM
Here comes horsemanship...
Oh god. Why.
For the love of god please no
Ugh.... but if it makes sense anywhere, it's here. And it counts as "something old".

Looks like i picked the right time to quit buying cards. (I've said this before)
What's wrong with Horsemanship? It's pretty much unblockable, which is always printed.
It's not unblockable, it's flying... except we already have flying. It's really dumb to have 2 of the same thing with different names. (Shadow is different because it's a 2-way street. Can't block OR be blocked)

It's not flying. Flying creatures and creatures with reach cannot block horsemanship.
Creatures with Flying can only be blocked by other creatures with Flying. (pre-Reach keyword)
Creatures with Horsemanship can only be blocked by other creatures with Horsemanship. (pre-Pikeman or other surely soon-to-exist keyword)

They're the same thing.

Brawler_1337

Quote from: DYMongoose on May 20, 2014, 04:43:44 PM
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Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 18, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on May 18, 2014, 08:00:40 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 18, 2014, 07:59:55 PM
Here comes horsemanship...
Oh god. Why.
For the love of god please no
Ugh.... but if it makes sense anywhere, it's here. And it counts as "something old".

Looks like i picked the right time to quit buying cards. (I've said this before)
What's wrong with Horsemanship? It's pretty much unblockable, which is always printed.
It's not unblockable, it's flying... except we already have flying. It's really dumb to have 2 of the same thing with different names. (Shadow is different because it's a 2-way street. Can't block OR be blocked)

It's not flying. Flying creatures and creatures with reach cannot block horsemanship.
Creatures with Flying can only be blocked by other creatures with Flying. (pre-Reach keyword)
Creatures with Horsemanship can only be blocked by other creatures with Horsemanship. (pre-Pikeman or other surely soon-to-exist keyword)

They're the same thing.
Indeed they are. Horsemanship was Flying reworded to fit the flavor of P3K. I doubt we'll be seeing it.

Rasser


rarehuntertay

How's this for a reworking of banding: Horde
Horde: as you enter combat, you may declare this creature and one other creature attacking together as a group. You assign all combat damage dealt to and from this group this combat phase.

MuggyWuggy


particle

Quote from: rarehuntertay on May 20, 2014, 05:25:47 PM
How's this for a reworking of banding: Horde
Horde: as you enter combat, you may declare this creature and one other creature attacking together as a group. You assign all combat damage dealt to and from this group this combat phase.

seems like the advantage would all be for the attacker and the blocker gets screwed.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: particle on May 20, 2014, 09:22:01 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on May 20, 2014, 05:25:47 PM
How's this for a reworking of banding: Horde
Horde: as you enter combat, you may declare this creature and one other creature attacking together as a group. You assign all combat damage dealt to and from this group this combat phase.

seems like the advantage would all be for the attacker and the blocker gets screwed.
That's kind of how banding works, just with like a page more of rules.

Nymuera

Blockers with banding got an advantage as well. The controller of the blocking creatures was allowed to divvy up the damage as wanted.

rarehuntertay

Quote from: DYMongoose on May 20, 2014, 04:43:44 PM
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Quote from: DYMongoose on May 20, 2014, 04:12:46 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 20, 2014, 03:56:45 PM
Quote from: DYMongoose on May 20, 2014, 03:34:51 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 18, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: The FullMetal Alchemist on May 18, 2014, 08:00:40 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 18, 2014, 07:59:55 PM
Here comes horsemanship...
Oh god. Why.
For the love of god please no
Ugh.... but if it makes sense anywhere, it's here. And it counts as "something old".

Looks like i picked the right time to quit buying cards. (I've said this before)
What's wrong with Horsemanship? It's pretty much unblockable, which is always printed.
It's not unblockable, it's flying... except we already have flying. It's really dumb to have 2 of the same thing with different names. (Shadow is different because it's a 2-way street. Can't block OR be blocked)

It's not flying. Flying creatures and creatures with reach cannot block horsemanship.
Creatures with Flying can only be blocked by other creatures with Flying. (pre-Reach keyword)
Creatures with Horsemanship can only be blocked by other creatures with Horsemanship. (pre-Pikeman or other surely soon-to-exist keyword)

They're the same thing.

Still are not the same thing. Flying cannot block horsemanship. Horsemanship cannot block flying. Reach can block flying. Reach cannot block horsemanship, unless that creature has horsemanship itself.

MementoMori

The point is that they're the same mechanic with different names.

Which is why I doubt it'll be the old thing coming back. I also don't think it meets the "lots of people want this" criteria, given that the typical reaction to it that I've seen is pretty much this.

Sparkle Ninja


Mattao19

Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 31, 2014, 06:50:06 PM
Maybe it's kicker or Phyrexian Mana

I hope it's either!! I love both!! But isn't kicker a lot like Strive. (Obviously not the same but close)

Sparkle Ninja

Quote from: Taysby on May 31, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
*multikicker
No. Strive adds more targets. Kicker/multikicker adds extra effects to the spell in question