Sliver tink

Started by Subiskier, May 13, 2014, 04:17:50 PM

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Subiskier

{thorncaster sliver} + {bow of nylea}

Double-O-Scotch

I don't see it... What am I missing?

AdamS

all creatures have deathtouch so when they attack they can target each creature with 1 damage an kill all the creatures die befor they can block

FustyDavorite

Doesn't work.
702.2b: Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c-d.
Deathtouch only works through combat damage, that is noncombat.

Double-O-Scotch

Quote from: FustyDavorite on May 19, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Doesn't work.
702.2b: Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c-d.
Deathtouch only works through combat damage, that is noncombat.

This is correct however not totally accurate for the scenario. It DOES work...

702.2c. A creature with toughness greater than 0 that's been dealt damage by a source with deathtouch since the last time state-based actions were checked is destroyed as a state-based action. See rule 704.

Double-O-Scotch

Deathtouch works for all damage dealt. It's why {Niv-Mizzet, the firemind} and {basalisk collar} work so well...

And {goblin sharpshooter} and {basalisk collar}

And more!

FustyDavorite

Oh! This is new to me. Pardon my French.

MuggyWuggy

Similar to the Polukranos + bow combo

Splicer

I prefer {Deathbringer Thoctar} and {Basilisk Collar}

Kill the opposing army and have no loss in counters!

Avnger345

Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 19, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on May 19, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Doesn't work.
702.2b: Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c-d.
Deathtouch only works through combat damage, that is noncombat.

This is correct however not totally accurate for the scenario. It DOES work...

702.2c. A creature with toughness greater than 0 that's been dealt damage by a source with deathtouch since the last time state-based actions were checked is destroyed as a state-based action. See rule 704.


+1.       Also thorncaster ability says when this creature attacks it deals 1 damage...  Sliver is attacking so bow kicks in giving deathtouch

Double-O-Scotch

Quote from: Avnger345 on May 20, 2014, 08:33:13 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 19, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: FustyDavorite on May 19, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Doesn't work.
702.2b: Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c-d.
Deathtouch only works through combat damage, that is noncombat.

This is correct however not totally accurate for the scenario. It DOES work...

702.2c. A creature with toughness greater than 0 that's been dealt damage by a source with deathtouch since the last time state-based actions were checked is destroyed as a state-based action. See rule 704.


+1.       Also thorncaster ability says when this creature attacks it deals 1 damage...  Sliver is attacking so bow kicks in giving deathtouch

+1.    Good explanation!