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Started by Garblefarb, April 20, 2014, 04:59:56 PM

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MisterJH

And guess who else was on your side man. ME. I said you have a fair enough view. I was simply advocating and speaking the truth. Idt ive said much that was unreasonable, nor have i said anything far fetched or that strays far from the truth. W/e doh

MisterJH

Quote from: Juvia, Water Woman on April 24, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
Small note Mister... There is NO cure for type 1 diabetes and type 2 only exhsts when people are extremely obese, excercuse and good food fix that one.
I know i referenced that some people have a genetic problem or something in that area that causes it. I understand that and its rather unfortunate. But i didnt say anythig to the contrary

MisterJH

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?

I've covered mayo
Overall drugs leave you in a much better place than you were found in.  You might have 1 side effect of mild headaches, but your lethal infection went away.  Oh no, it hurt your body.  :P. You don't know what you are talkin about.

You don't by chance do the essential oil crap, do you?
Im not speaking to antibiotics to cure infections, i think that should have been obvious. Also you mistake me being realistic about companies who benefit from a study going one way paying for said studies as taking a random shot in the dark. I have no idea how mayo gets their funds, it was just an example that may or may not have been relevant. If you believe tht .poo. doesnt happen your just deliberately ignoring some truths. But again, what can i do?

Spencer Addington

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:05:39 PM
I'm providingn something, you're providing nothing.  All of the studies I have seen have verified my view point.  You seem to be adamant about not posting yours, so I question if you even have them.

What are these "truths" you claim to know?  Nothing is a fact I. Science.  You'll see that I have been willing to change my opinion under new evidence but you won't provide me with any.

Some peoples parents restrict the internet browser on their ipad so no, as of right now, I can't dig into research.  I apologize for any inconvenience.

If you would like me to, tommorow, I'll post all of the links that support my opinion on here.
Your parents restric your internet? Do you have younger siblings?

MuggyWuggy

Taysby: insulting essential oil usage to support your end of the argument is quite ignorant.

Just because a bunch of old white men who own pharm companies have lobbied interest in pushing their product out while dismissing/slowly illegalizing ancient cures. Western medicine has been around for a few hundred years and natural care has helped humanity survive for thousands of years before.

Concerning marijuana and curing cancer: there is no factual proof that says ingesting mj will cure you.

However: if you research "CBD" you will find numerous recent reports of parents who allow their children MJ treatment. Slowing/stopping seizures from rare diseases/syndromes.
A friend who has had a brain tumor completely disappear after several years of cannabis oil extract ingestion. Everytime she would get better and stop using the oil, she would begin to party etc, and her tumor would return. Recently a visit to the dr showed no more signs of tumor. Not saying MJ cured her but it sure as hell helped.

Spencer Addington

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?

I've covered mayo
Overall drugs leave you in a much better place than you were found in.  You might have 1 side effect of mild headaches, but your lethal infection went away.  Oh no, it hurt your body.  :P. You don't know what you are talkin about.

You don't by chance do the essential oil crap, do you?
Im not speaking to antibiotics to cure infections, i think that should have been obvious. Also you mistake me being realistic about companies who benefit from a study going one way paying for said studies as taking a random shot in the dark. I have no idea how mayo gets their funds, it was just an example that may or may not have been relevant. If you believe tht .poo. doesnt happen your just deliberately ignoring some truths. But again, what can i do?

Anti-biotics are prescription drugs, so you have just caught yourself in a lie.
You specifically said "mayo is a biased company that gets it's funds from anti-marajuana funds" then said no they don't.  So you just caught yourself in another lie.

Piotr, can we give this guy a 10 day ban for lying?  ;)
See right there? Right there you were being an antagonistic prick... ;)

MuggyWuggy

My dad recently requested mJ from me due to not being able to sleep.

He already takes a Dixie cup worth of meds for blood pressure and whatnot, so when he was told to take: trapazone, norco, and Xanax in order to sleep, he tried and it made his overall world worse. Now I give him some butter here and there with smoke and he sleeps better, doesn't have to take even more pills and he's much more productive.

Once again MJ wins and benefits

I managed two dispensaries in LA so I know all spectrums of patients/users & a large population of these people are not ignorant. They are successful and proactive members of the community.

MisterJH

If your ipad is so restricted how can you look up links that support your views and not mine? I dont even think you know what im arguing for anymore. Im just suggesting you look into a few things, because theres documented evidence for example of companies paying for studies done on their product. I was simply trying to encourage you to look into it further since i myself have already done so. Your response so far has been 'no you're wrong post the link so i dont have to bother'

Then you kind of started being a weiner because i wont do research ive already done multiple times over, to find a link that you could google search in 5 seconds. I already know this .poo., i was just offering up a different view of the world and telling you some things that would open your eyes in some way. Dude i give up im not doing this anymore its literally hopeless.

So ill conclude with this. If you get the chance, do some serious research into:

1) the FDA, particularly 'dangerous' chemicals they've approved, biased studies theyve done

Research about companies paying for studies done to help themselves

2) the processed food crisis, the nutritional value of these foods, the sugar consumption now versus however many years ago, rising obesity. Also look at mass farming, livestock, the diets, conditions, genetic modification, steroid abuse in livestock, excessive antibiotics given to livestock... Theres all kinds of fun things to learn. This ties into the sick ass obese america which leads to guess what? Prescription meds. Which leads to what? More $$

Its a loop. I advise you learn about it. It doesnt realy matter all that much but its somethig to be aware of(it matters to me but to most it doesnt)

3) research studies supporting drugs too. If you choose to believe only the demonizing ones ok fine, but at least make yourself aware that there ARE other views supported by "studies"

Anything else i missed that i suggested people should get informed on?

See some choose to put their minds into .politics., global warming, deforestation, church. This is the .poo. i get off to. So im not comin from bullshit. Id just rather have you do this your own, because thatll be more persuasive then my 'full of crap self' posting stuff because well.. Im 'full of crap' apparently. I figured if you did it your own itd make a bigger impact. So i leave you with a short list of 3 things. Do with it what you like, spit on it, shove it up my butt. Whatever.

MuggyWuggy

Now you lie by saying smoking MJ is bad, you're insulting Rastafarian sacrament.

10 day coming up ;)

MisterJH

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.

Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased.  Where is your proof for cannibis preventing  cancer?

Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?

I've covered mayo
Overall drugs leave you in a much better place than you were found in.  You might have 1 side effect of mild headaches, but your lethal infection went away.  Oh no, it hurt your body.  :P. You don't know what you are talkin about.

You don't by chance do the essential oil crap, do you?
Im not speaking to antibiotics to cure infections, i think that should have been obvious. Also you mistake me being realistic about companies who benefit from a study going one way paying for said studies as taking a random shot in the dark. I have no idea how mayo gets their funds, it was just an example that may or may not have been relevant. If you believe tht .poo. doesnt happen your just deliberately ignoring some truths. But again, what can i do?

Anti-biotics are prescription drugs, so you have just caught yourself in a lie.
You specifically said "mayo is a biased company that gets it's funds from anti-marajuana funds" then said no they don't.  So you just caught yourself in another lie.
I asked if you believe mayo doesnt get any outside funding or migh not. I think they probably due. By prescription drugs i didnt say 'all prescription drugs including penicillin' so no thats not a lie, your nitpicking and using fallacies for your arguments. when you do that, you discredit yourself not others. Fine i shall be more specific: prescription drugs aimed at curing preventable illness caused by poor nutrition, sedentary lifestyle, a myriad of things. This includes but is not limited to: cases of depression, type II diabetes, cancer, anxiety, hormonal imbalances that cause serious issues. Is that specific enough for you or can you manage nitpick your way into anoter fallacy.

MuggyWuggy

Just eat some mushrooms taysby and you'll get enlightenment.

Here's a link for source:

http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20110616/magic-mushrooms-drug-shows-promise-therapeutic-tool


MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
You can get the same effect by extracting a chemical from it and turning it into a drug which would keep you from getting the bad carcinogens.

If in doubt, my view with marajuana is that the chemicals aren't necessarily bad, but smoking it is just as bad or worse than cigaretts.

Marinol: (synthetic Thc ) has been a failure

Turning something hnatural into a lil magic pill ain't right by nature

MisterJH

If corn is a suggestion for another -orn word then yes. Dk, thought it might be since you were on the subject of using the internet :p

Also, yes i like corn. No, i dont support the genetically modified frankencorn.

Garblefarb

I think we all just need to chill out and smoke a bowl... Or 12

Spencer Addington

Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:25:56 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 11:18:49 PM
If your ipad is so restricted how can you look up links that support your views and not mine? I dont even think you know what im arguing for anymore. Im just suggesting you look into a few things, because theres documented evidence for example of companies paying for studies done on their product. I was simply trying to encourage you to look into it further since i myself have already done so. Your response so far has been 'no you're wrong post the link so i dont have to bother'

Then you kind of started being a weiner because i wont do research ive already done multiple times over, to find a link that you could google search in 5 seconds. I already know this .poo., i was just offering up a different view of the world and telling you some things that would open your eyes in some way. Dude i give up im not doing this anymore its literally hopeless.

So ill conclude with this. If you get the chance, do some serious research into:

1) the FDA, particularly 'dangerous' chemicals they've approved, biased studies theyve done

Research about companies paying for studies done to help themselves

2) the processed food crisis, the nutritional value of these foods, the sugar consumption now versus however many years ago, rising obesity. Also look at mass farming, livestock, the diets, conditions, genetic modification, steroid abuse in livestock, excessive antibiotics given to livestock... Theres all kinds of fun things to learn. This ties into the sick ass obese america which leads to guess what? Prescription meds. Which leads to what? More $$

Its a loop. I advise you learn about it. It doesnt realy matter all that much but its somethig to be aware of(it matters to me but to most it doesnt)

3) research studies supporting drugs too. If you choose to believe only the demonizing ones ok fine, but at least make yourself aware that there ARE other views supported by "studies"

Anything else i missed that i suggested people should get informed on?

See some choose to put their minds into .politics., global warming, deforestation, church. This is the .poo. i get off to. So im not comin from bullshit. Id just rather have you do this your own, because thatll be more persuasive then my 'full of crap self' posting stuff because well.. Im 'full of crap' apparently. I figured if you did it your own itd make a bigger impact. So i leave you with a short list of 3 things. Do with it what you like, spit on it, shove it up my butt. Whatever.

I have spare moments in school.  I did spend a moment trying to find those, but couldn't find one.  :P.
Do you like corn?
ITS A TRAP!!