Seance -tific Question

Started by Galabranth, March 16, 2014, 08:27:26 AM

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Galabranth

Quote from: Sardok on March 19, 2014, 05:57:15 AM
Quote from: Galabranth on March 19, 2014, 05:54:02 AM
Just to clear it up,

So they get created on the upkeep of each player,
and they get exiled in the beginning of the next end step (meaning the start of the end step of an opponent in a 1-on-1 match).

Is this spot on?

Nope.

The next end step is yours, aka the same turn in which your tokens were created.

Ah but Keyeto stated above, "every end step". I interpreted this as my end step and my opponents end step. The card does not state "your end step".

Remillo

"The Next End Step" means just that, the next end step to happen.  Usually this will be yours, because Seance triggers only on your own upkeep.  However, if your end step were to be skipped (for example, with Time Stop or Sundial of the Infinite), then it would trigger on the next turn's end step, so your opponents.
Also, the exile trigger will only fire once because it says 'next end step'.  If you let the trigger on the stack on your end step, the proceed to stifle or exile the trigger (with Time Stop/Sundial again), then it won't fire again, because the 'next end step' has already happened.

Galabranth

Ah, sorry for my slowness, just making sure.

So {Séance} tokens get created on my upkeep, then get exiled in the end step of my next turn.

Is this the final verdict?

Sardok

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Quote from: Galabranth on March 20, 2014, 11:18:04 AM
Ah, sorry for my slowness, just making sure.

So {Séance} tokens get created on my upkeep, then get exiled in the end step of my next turn.

Is this the final verdict?

Nope.

They will normally get exiled at the end step of the same turn which they are created. This assumes that you don't do anything that skips your end step such as {Time Stop} or {Sundial of the Infinite}.

The tokens can be created on every player's upkeep, but it doesn't change the fact that the next end step will be in that same turn.

Galabranth

Ahh. Ok,

They get created in my upkeep, then get exiled on my end step the same turn the tokens were created.

Is this the right interpretation now?

If it does, well then, that sucks.

Giggle the Draco Genius

Quote from: Galabranth on March 21, 2014, 12:20:17 AM
Ahh. Ok,

They get created in my upkeep, then get exiled on my end step the same turn the tokens were created.

Is this the right interpretation now?

If it does, well then, that sucks.

Ya {Seance} is kind of lackluster by itself