UW agro

[Ekann1]

Still, is {Spirit of the Labyrinth} very useful?  It's only good against sphinx's rev, and UW/Esper has so many ways of dealing with is.  I feel like there are better (and cheaper) SB options.

[Kaleo42]

Still, is {Spirit of the Labyrinth} very useful?  It's only good against sphinx's rev, and UW/Esper has so many ways of dealing with is.  I feel like there are better (and cheaper) SB options.

Is a 3/1 for 2 useful? Yes it is.

[Ekann1]

Still, is {Spirit of the Labyrinth} very useful?  It's only good against sphinx's rev, and UW/Esper has so many ways of dealing with is.  I feel like there are better (and cheaper) SB options.

Is a 3/1 for 2 useful? Yes it is.

True, but if it's only being played for a 2 mana 3/1, I'd rather play {Daring Skyjek}. He's good in agro matchups too.  If I attack with a brimaz and skyjek, (getting a cat token) does skyjek get flying? I don't think he does, but I'm not sure.

[DirtyMustachio]

Against esper a 3/1 adds pressure, you need to put pressure on them while using the least amount of creatures as you can instead of flooding the field to be verdicted, also if they don't have options and they're sitting there with a rev in hand they have to deal with it first while the whatever else you have is having their way with their life points

[Kaleo42]

Still, is {Spirit of the Labyrinth} very useful?  It's only good against sphinx's rev, and UW/Esper has so many ways of dealing with is.  I feel like there are better (and cheaper) SB options.

Is a 3/1 for 2 useful? Yes it is.

True, but if it's only being played for a 2 mana 3/1, I'd rather play {Daring Skyjek}. He's good in agro matchups too.  If I attack with a brimaz and skyjek, (getting a cat token) does skyjek get flying? I don't think he does, but I'm not sure.

No. Even though the token is attacking you didnt declare it as an attacker. These makes exalted work but betalion does not

[Ekann1]

Aha. Makes sense. I think I might run some {revoke existence} SB instead of the spirits. Thoughts on that? Or is {Detention sphere} already enough that I don't need {revoke existence}.

[SoshiGanrou]

I noticed 3 BIG problems with this deck: {drown in sorrow}, {bile blight}, and {fated retribution}. I think I might need {dissolve}s or some other counterspell back in the sideboard. What do you guys think?

I think I could cut the spirits of the labyrinth for {dissolve}s or {syncopate}s. They are for sphinx's rev, but control can just rev in response or kill it.

Why not try negate if you have these problems? If you have enough pressure on the board then them having to caste their board wipe early seems ok to me. Sorry if this has already been answered for you. But dissolve is 2 blue and negate is 1 blue and stops the black board wipes

[DirtyMustachio]

^this

Not to mention negate gets millions of things.. Just not creatures.. Plainswalkers on the other hand

[Ekann1]

Good idea, both of you! +1's for that. I think I'll try 2 {Negate} SB instead of 2 {Spirit of the Labyrinth}. Seem like a good idea?

I could even cut a {Azorius Charm} SB for a 3rd negate. Thoughts on that?

[DirtyMustachio]

Sure but I personally feel like you don't need both negate and gainsay. I mean for esper sure.. But your primarily Aggro id just play 3 negates and yeah

[Ekann1]

Sure but I personally feel like you don't need both negate and gainsay. I mean for esper sure.. But your primarily Aggro id just play 3 negates and yeah

True, but {gainsay} is for the mono-blue matchup where I might have a harder time otherwise.  I'm hoping that when I can bring in a {detention sphere} and 3 {gainsay} I'll have a really easy time with games 2-3.  Although, I'm open to suggestions of other SB cards. Maybe {daring skyjek} for the agro mirror, or {revoke existence}?

[DirtyMustachio]

I guess I'm looking at the whole format as a whole. If that's the issue just run four d spheres the things handle so much everything

My question is also one for myself

How do we handle pro white crap.

{stormbreath dragon}
{blood baron of vizkopa}

[Ekann1]

I guess I'm looking at the whole format as a whole. If that's the issue just run four d spheres the things handle so much everything

My question is also one for myself

How do we handle pro white crap.

{stormbreath dragon}
{blood baron of vizkopa}

Hmm. Good point. Maybe run 3 {negate}s and 3 {essence scatter}s SB instead of 1 {azorius charm}, 3 {gainsay}? (Already have 2 negate in SB, so I need to get rid of 4 spots there)

[DirtyMustachio]

{nullify} > {essence scatter}

I'd wait and hear what Kaleo has to say. I still personally don't like the gainsays in your build but that's just me.

[DirtyMustachio]

Also forgot to mention
{negate} gets all the gods to