Touchy subjects: presidents (May be NSFW)

[Ertai]

He didn't spend trillions of dollars on nothing.  He didn't try to take away our second amendment.  And he also was an American citizen.

-Congress and the House make laws and budgets, you can't blame Obama for our debt or deficit. (or Obamacare, because the national debt was still a huge number before it was passed)
-Obama isn't trying to take away our Second Amendment, he is merely trying to get reasonable gun control passed, something nearly every other modern country has done.
-You have no evidence to suggest he is not an American citizen. If there was any legitimate evidence, Obama would be impeached or stopped from running in the first place.

I don't believe Obama is the best president, but I also don't think he's the worst. I would like to remind you that the Ultimate Law says not to lie, which you blatantly did.

Money can make people look past anything sir.

You act as if politicians are truthful.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Regean was one of the greats, however I have to say Abraham Lincoln.  He was the one who really addressed the racial issues, and he also was a smart cookie when it comes to tactics in war.

Worst is for me Obama.  I could go into my whole list of reasons, however I will not because I don't feel like political debates right now.  They get me fired up, and irritable.  It reminds me what is wrong with this country.

However, being as I have to give a reason, I will have to say I hate him most because of Bengazi.  And the fact it still hasn't been something that he has properly addressed to this day.

+1 well said.

For a teenager, you are well versed. I'm glad to see some of our youth to be educated politically.

Yes, so well versed in .politics. he can't spell "BENGHAZI" correctly. Also, he has addressed it. Here is one of the many times he has addressed it: http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2012/09/12/president-obama-speaks-attack-benghazi

[Ertai]

So because of a spelling error, he isn't versed? Hahahahaha. How naive.

You post all the links you want, bud. If you a believe a word that comes out of that man's mouth, then you are obviously gullible.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

He didn't spend trillions of dollars on nothing.  He didn't try to take away our second amendment.  And he also was an American citizen.

-Congress and the House make laws and budgets, you can't blame Obama for our debt or deficit. (or Obamacare, because the national debt was still a huge number before it was passed)
-Obama isn't trying to take away our Second Amendment, he is merely trying to get reasonable gun control passed, something nearly every other modern country has done.
-You have no evidence to suggest he is not an American citizen. If there was any legitimate evidence, Obama would be impeached or stopped from running in the first place.

I don't believe Obama is the best president, but I also don't think he's the worst. I would like to remind you that the Ultimate Law says not to lie, which you blatantly did.

Money can make people look past anything sir.

You act as if politicians are truthful.

Are you implying that Obama has been able to payoff all everyone? I really hope not, because you seriously need help if you are. If he could payoff so many people, why does he face so much opposition from Congress, Fox news, ect.? This is just a ludicrous notion.

[Ertai]

So because of a spelling error, he isn't versed? Hahahahaha. How naive.

You post all the links you want, bud. If you a believe a word that comes out of that man's mouth, then you are obviously gullible.

And where do you get information? What's your trusted source?

What do I need a source for? Haha. I'm voicing my opinion.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Hey, you try staying awake for 36+ hours and tell me how your spelling fares!

Parting thought, when I said he hasn't addressed Benghazi, I mean he hasn't properly faced the consequences that he should have for lying to the American people about knowing about what was happening, and refusing to let the troops provide reinforcements to the embassy while it was being attacked.  He said there would be a trial held as well after the election.  That hasn't happened yet though, and I still want to see justice.

Good night everybody, hopefully spell check hasn't changed what I meant to say, because at this point, I'm surprised I can see the keypad

[Ertai]

So because of a spelling error, he isn't versed? Hahahahaha. How naive.

You post all the links you want, bud. If you a believe a word that comes out of that man's mouth, then you are obviously gullible.

And where do you get information? What's your trusted source?

What do I need a source for? Haha. I'm voicing my opinion.

My point is that you have accused him of lying, being socialist, and a few other things without anything to back it up. He's demonstratively not socialist, so I was curious as to where you got your information.

The past? Observing his actions? It's pretty obvious, sir.

I happen to have my BA in Sociology, and have learned well. Even to the untrained, government controlled economy and/or business is communism. Society run economy and/or business is socialism. He makes it to the point where people depend on government benefits to survive. Sounds like the aforementioned to me.



If you would like to learn more, I would love to teach you.

[Ertai]

Congratulations on having the most irrelevant degrees.

Regardless of how vague my answer was it was truth. Just because I don't feel like typing an essay on my phone, doesn't make it wrong.

Well I've had a good laugh. Have a good day.

[Ertai]

Fixed.

[Apathy Reactor]

This may sound extremely conservative, and in no means am I one. Nor am I a liberal, but I would say the best was Ronald Regan.

Worst would be Obama because he's spent so much of the country's money that we do not have for his so called "idea".  Which has proven to be ineffective.  He's a socialist/communist, which has proven to never work. And to those misguided youth who think they want a communist/socialist state, truly do not know what they are really about.

I'm gonna agree Ertai here on Reagan, and partially agree about Obama, he is not all bad, and we should respect him as our president, but he certainly has a fair share of failures, as anyone does. I don't have a least favorite president in all honesty, but I can truthfully say that I dislike Obama more than most other presidents. Not everything wrong with our economy is his fault, but he's not exactly the plunger to pull us out of the toilet, you know?

[Gorzo]

How about we avoid the personal attacks and stay on topic, hm?

[Apathy Reactor]

How about we avoid the personal attacks and stay on topic, hm?

After reading this entire thread, I agree.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

How about we avoid the personal attacks and stay on topic, hm?

After reading this entire thread, I agree.

I like typing in different colors

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

I believe I named 3 things in the beginning of my post, maybe you jut skipped over them TL;DR style.

Obama is an American citizen...

Bet you believe he went to Columbia as well...

You realize if he wasn't an American citizen his credentials would have been checked before he ran and he would be taken out of he country?

[Steerpike]

I'm no birther, but between:
Benghazi
IRS
Obamacare
Fast and Furious
Garbage about gun control

If he were a republican, media would cover this term WAY differently