Touchy subjects: presidents (May be NSFW)

Started by Kaworu, the Fifth Child, February 04, 2014, 10:27:05 PM

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Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Best president and why?
Worst pres and why?
Feel free to argue with other people about who.
I won't post my opinions unless requested


abstractApathist

Best: Probably FDR for having the most beneficial influence and going against the common policies of his era to help the depression.

Worst: Andrew Jackson. He did some messed up things to Native Americans, disobeyed the Supreme Court when they ordered him to stop, and wrecked the economy.

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 04, 2014, 10:40:21 PM
Request :P
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Best: either JFK or Johnson. Nice policies, did the right things most of the time. JFK was pretty interesting in general.
Worst: George W. Bush



Anoobass

He didn't spend trillions of dollars on nothing.  He didn't try to take away our second amendment.  And he also was an American citizen.

Now I'm in no way a bush fan, I don't even vote because the system we have at the moment isn't a democracy and my one vote doesn't count for .poo..  But I'm just saying that he isn't even close to as bad as Obama.

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: Anoobass on February 04, 2014, 11:12:29 PM
He didn't spend trillions of dollars on nothing.  He didn't try to take away our second amendment.  And he also was an American citizen.

Now I'm in no way a bush fan, I don't even vote because the system we have at the moment isn't a democracy and my one vote doesn't count for .poo..  But I'm just saying that he isn't even close to as bad as Obama.
He's waaaay worse! In what ways are he BETTER?!?!?!?

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: CbStrad on February 04, 2014, 11:16:50 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on February 04, 2014, 11:15:58 PM
Quote from: Anoobass on February 04, 2014, 11:12:29 PM
He didn't spend trillions of dollars on nothing.  He didn't try to take away our second amendment.  And he also was an American citizen.

Now I'm in no way a bush fan, I don't even vote because the system we have at the moment isn't a democracy and my one vote doesn't count for .poo..  But I'm just saying that he isn't even close to as bad as Obama.
He's waaaay worse! In what ways are he BETTER?!?!?!?
Obamacare and gun control, for starters
For or against?

Anoobass

I believe I named 3 things in the beginning of my post, maybe you jut skipped over them TL;DR style.

Kaworu, the Fifth Child

Quote from: Anoobass on February 04, 2014, 11:17:31 PM
I believe I named 3 things in the beginning of my post, maybe you jut skipped over them TL;DR style.
Obama is an American citizen...

Anoobass

Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on February 04, 2014, 11:18:28 PM
Quote from: Anoobass on February 04, 2014, 11:17:31 PM
I believe I named 3 things in the beginning of my post, maybe you jut skipped over them TL;DR style.
Obama is an American citizen...

Bet you believe he went to Columbia as well...

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Regean was one of the greats, however I have to say Abraham Lincoln.  He was the one who really addressed the racial issues, and he also was a smart cookie when it comes to tactics in war.

Worst is for me Obama.  I could go into my whole list of reasons, however I will not because I don't feel like political debates right now.  They get me fired up, and irritable.  It reminds me what is wrong with this country.

However, being as I have to give a reason, I will have to say I hate him most because of Bengazi.  And the fact it still hasn't been something that he has properly addressed to this day. :(

Ertai

Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on February 04, 2014, 11:25:32 PM
Regean was one of the greats, however I have to say Abraham Lincoln.  He was the one who really addressed the racial issues, and he also was a smart cookie when it comes to tactics in war.

Worst is for me Obama.  I could go into my whole list of reasons, however I will not because I don't feel like political debates right now.  They get me fired up, and irritable.  It reminds me what is wrong with this country.

However, being as I have to give a reason, I will have to say I hate him most because of Bengazi.  And the fact it still hasn't been something that he has properly addressed to this day. :(

+1 well said.

For a teenager, you are well versed. I'm glad to see some of our youth to be educated politically.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Anoobass on February 04, 2014, 11:12:29 PM
He didn't spend trillions of dollars on nothing.  He didn't try to take away our second amendment.  And he also was an American citizen.
-Congress and the House make laws and budgets, you can't blame Obama for our debt or deficit. (or Obamacare, because the national debt was still a huge number before it was passed)
-Obama isn't trying to take away our Second Amendment, he is merely trying to get reasonable gun control passed, something nearly every other modern country has done.
-You have no evidence to suggest he is not an American citizen. If there was any legitimate evidence, Obama would be impeached or stopped from running in the first place.

I don't believe Obama is the best president, but I also don't think he's the worst. I would like to remind you that the Ultimate Law says not to lie, which you blatantly did. :)