Bans/Unbans

Started by Moneekahh, January 26, 2014, 12:04:29 PM

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Ekann1

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 26, 2014, 11:14:23 PM
Bannings/Unbannings for French 1v1 Commander have been announced:
    Derevi, Empyrial Tactician is banned as a Commander
    Zur the Enchanter is banned as a Commander
    Grim Monolith is banned
    Natural Order is banned
    Oath of Druids is banned
    Vanishing is unbanned
Noooo. Derevi!! Why?!

I'm actually curious, why ban derevi? Too many infinite combos?

Spencer Addington

The banning of zhur is gonna piss a lot of people off.

Ekann1

Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 26, 2014, 11:16:53 PM
The banning of zhur is gonna piss a lot of people off.
And make a lot of people who don't play zur happy... :)

Spencer Addington

Quote from: E.kann1 on January 26, 2014, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 26, 2014, 11:16:53 PM
The banning of zhur is gonna piss a lot of people off.
And make a lot of people who don't play zur happy... :)
There were answers for zhur. I'm gonna keep an eye on the trade section cause people are going to start taking apart their zhur commander decks.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

TO CLARIFY, THIS ARE THE BAN/UNBAN LIST FOR FRENCH 1V1 COMMANDER

Here is the official site, with explanations: http://duelcommander.com/last-banlist-changes/

Derevi confused me at first also, but after reading the explanation, I understand.

Ekann1

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 26, 2014, 11:21:22 PM
TO CLARIFY, THIS ARE THE BAN/UNBAN LIST FOR FRENCH 1V1 COMMANDER

Here is the official site, with explanations: http://duelcommander.com/last-banlist-changes/

Derevi confused me at first also, but after reading the explanation, I understand.

Makes sense now. Well, i don't have any of those combos in my derevi deck, so I think I'll be fine playing win my friends.

Coffee Vampire

I have a derevi on cockatrice using the wizards banlist and it's the most broken deck ever made. Most decks need {Sol Ring} or {Mana Crypt} in the opening hand to be broken, however derevi just needs a mana dork and things get nasty starting turn 2.

MuggyWuggy

I'm just not a fan of French commander. It seems only certain things get banned while other cards that lock a game into nothing stay. Banning a designated commander just seems silly.

Why not ban the cards that make land untappable, wait what about Iona, no actually there is {hall of gems} also, that's really unfair when you're blah blah blah: basically I think French commander is silly, it allows some broken combos to go off but doesn't allow others. That just seems like card favoritism


Mattao19

Quote from: Muggywuggy on January 27, 2014, 03:30:22 PM
I'm just not a fan of French commander. It seems only certain things get banned while other cards that lock a game into nothing stay. Banning a designated commander just seems silly.

Why not ban the cards that make land untappable, wait what about Iona, no actually there is {hall of gems} also, that's really unfair when you're blah blah blah: basically I think French commander is silly, it allows some broken combos to go off but doesn't allow others. That just seems like card favoritism

Iona is not broken though you just need to play around her sure its hard if you're playing mono colored EDH but she costs 9 mana you need to anticipate her and its not hard to counter her

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Mattao19 on January 27, 2014, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on January 27, 2014, 03:30:22 PM
I'm just not a fan of French commander. It seems only certain things get banned while other cards that lock a game into nothing stay. Banning a designated commander just seems silly.

Why not ban the cards that make land untappable, wait what about Iona, no actually there is {hall of gems} also, that's really unfair when you're blah blah blah: basically I think French commander is silly, it allows some broken combos to go off but doesn't allow others. That just seems like card favoritism

Iona is not broken though you just need to play around her sure its hard if you're playing mono colored EDH but she costs 9 mana you need to anticipate her and its not hard to counter her
In 1v1 competitive EDH: fair game. In 1v1 casual: don't use it. Multiplayer EDH: Okay, it forces you to use .politics. to work around it.

Iona is just something you need to expect so you should have a game plan. All decks can use colorless and if you have to use {Tower of Calamities}, you have to do what you have to do.

MuggyWuggy

Yesterday:

Mono white player
{moat}
{humility}

Mono green player
{Hall of Gemstone}

Long boring game for me and other guy with multicolor

xStrayKnightx

Seriously, if you can't deal with Iona, then you're either really unprepared, rely too much on a particular colour or just aren't capable of playing around her.

Rass

Was thinking maybe  {Stoneforge Mystic}. Since it has jumped in price maybe someone has some insider info.