Ieatfood7 & abstractApathist

[Ieatfood7]

Ok, so I draw four, then draw two, and I take 12 damage from all that?

[abstractApathist]

Correct

[Ieatfood7]

Ok. After draw phase hand is at 11 and life is 26.

Attack with the sad bot and with the satyr. Blocks?

[abstractApathist]

No blocks.

[Ieatfood7]

Ok. {svogthos the restless tomb}. {ruin scarred demon} fetching.....{living death}.

Discard {golgari grave troll} and {stink weed imp}. And {necroplasm}.

26/7

[abstractApathist]

By the way, you don't have to reveal your rune-scarred demon fetch.

draw, draw, mountain, {whispering madness} encoded onto nekusar, we each draw 7

{windfall}, we each draw 6 (assuming you used dredge on the first wheel), pass

35/6

[Ieatfood7]

I can use dredge three times for the first one, each of the creatures I discarded last turn have dredge. and I do.  But it still increases my hand size by one, same as if I hadn't dredged, so then we each draw seven again the second time, (but since I discard first I can dredge three times again, more if I put more dredge cards in te graveyard). Yes?  This is complex so I want to make sure I get it right.

And thanks/sorry. My compueter is gligchibg, making it fine to draw shuffle etc, but hard to read te cards easy and I thought I had to show the demon fetch. I assume you would have made the same play regardless.

Let me know if I ubderstand right. Then let me know what creatures you have in your graveyard at end of turn.

[abstractApathist]

Oops yes you still go to 7 cards each time, you just don't take as much damage. I believe that, assuming you don't have any other dredgers, you should take 2 x 4 x 2 = 16 total damage. I'll be sure to draw my extra card off of windfall.

[abstractApathist]

3 creatures in grave: {avatar of woe}, {Jin-gitaxias, core augur}, and {seizan, perverter of truth}.

[Ieatfood7]

I just realized that you made me ditch living end. I think this is game. We will see I guess.

[Ieatfood7]

Rules question. So if I dredge my first draw, and dredge another card with dredge, I can use that new card as my second card draw replacement, right?

[Ieatfood7]

In pretty sure it does work that way. So my first dredge finds {life from the loan} so I actually draw three cards. The next dredge shows {darkmor salvage} so I actually draw two cards.

Five times two. Ten damage. 16 life.

I can list my graveyard if you like, but the only card there with relevance in game is {brawn}. There are 19 creatures in my graveyard.

Draw. Draw. 14 life.

{life from the loam}. Pull swamp forest and {crypt of agadeem}. Play {crypt of agadeem}. Attack for six in the air with the rune scarred daemon and one on the ground with the satyr.

If no blocks, play {jarad golgari lich lord}

Pass. Discard {golgari grave troll} and {stink weed imp} and {necroplasm}.

14/7

[abstractApathist]

Yes, you're correct, sorry for delay and no blocks

draw 2, {sol ring}, {obelisk of grixis}, {words of war}, pass 3 mana up

edit: 29/6

[Ieatfood7]

I think you are at 28 since I hit you for one on the ground and six in the air.

Draw. Draw. Replace both with dredge to get back the grave troll and the life from the loam.

Relevant dredged cards are {reassembling skeleton} and {rot farm skeleton}. 26 creatures in graveyard, 15 of them are black creatures.

Forest. Activate {crypt of agadeem} with svogthos and with a swamp. Add 15 black mana to mana pool. Tap forest. (16) Cast {golgari grave troll} as a 26/26. (11mana). Tap a second forest (12 mana). Sacrifice the grave troll to {jarad golgari lick lord} (9 mana floating). You lose 26 life. Responses? I'm not done.

[abstractApathist]

I will {undermine} GGT