Mana less Dredge

[Taysby]

Mana less Dredge 60 cards, 15 sideboard 4 {Narcomoeba} 4 {Ichorid} 4 {Street Wraith} 4 {Phantasmagorian} 4 {Golgari Thug} 1 {Flayer of the Hatebound} 4 {Nether Shadow} 4 {Balustrade Spy} 4 {Golgari Grave-Troll} 4 {Stinkweed Imp} 4 {Chancellor of the Annex} 1 {grieslbrand} 1 {sphinx of the steel wind} 1 {aroma, angel of wrath} 44 creatures 4 {Gitaxian Probe} 4 {Dread Return} 4 {Cabal Therapy} 4 {Bridge from Below} 15 other spells Sideboard 4 {Mindbreak Trap} 2 {Sickening Shoal} 4 {Contagion} 1 {Leyline of Sanctity} 4 {Faerie Macabre} 15 sideboard cards Notes: Go second.  Draw, discard a big dredge guy.  Next turn, dredge out the wazoo, and flashback that one card to bring back your {golgari grave troll} as a 20/20+

[Ertai]

I would also drop the spy's for {Putrid Imp}. In mana less dredge decks, it's easy fodder for {Ichorid}. Also, if you're able to build a {b} you can play it and discard your hand easily as well.

[ihasfrozen]

I would drop the probes and add {Breakthrough} which is the easiest way to dredge tons and discard your hand.

That would require mana.

The Spy lets you mill yourself (a la Oops, all spells), and you can win the same turn.

Only change I would make would be to try and add 4th {Cabal Therapy}, just to have another sac outlet. Not sure what I would cut though, maybe a shambling shell or a spy. {Griselbrand} and Iona are juicy dread targets, but you don't really need them with the spy.

Some lists run  {Leyline of the Void} in the sideboard for the mirror, but if your meta doesn't have any other dredge/oops all spells players, it probably isn't needed.

[Ertai]

Ah quite true.

[Dadforgame]

In the most recent ones (from eternal weekend and European legacy tournaments they've been dropping one shambling shell for a griselbrand

[Leevai420]

Update
I really don't like {gitaxian probe} because it can get countered and then I can't discard.  Is it worth taking out?

Who counters probe in legacy???

[Dadforgame]

You should be using it to dredge...not to cycle...the deck is pointless without 8 free draw spells...and...you shouldn't be using it in a case where you need to discard

[Dadforgame]

You only want reanimate balustrade, troll or flayer...cause you just win...why play something that doesn't let you win?

[Ertai]

Iona is great, however after playtesting myself, Elesh Norn is a bad idea.

I would only reanimate him if it's a last resort, as you do not want to lose you {Bridge from Below}.

[Ertai]

I checked out the top 8 deck lists for a very recent tournament and 97% of the creatures had toughness 2 or less.  The only exception really was {tarmogoyf}, so it would be a field wipe! and make my creatures big.

Right. Like I said. Good back up. But the point is to have {Bridge from Below} in your graveyard for it to work. And if their creatures die, your bridge is exiled.

Bridge is a big win con by having overwhelming numbers and attack opponents when you have enough. Or to use the tokens as sacs for {Dread Return}.

I have 2 I put in my dredge sideboard, however I rarely use them.

I put Iona in most of the time. As well as {Shatter} and the like.

[Ertai]

I typically play Iona to fight against counters. But more or less, it depends on the situation.

[Dadforgame]

when you reanimate spy you win though..so it's worth waiting..the other guys are not "win now" cards...and because you have 4 bridges, when you play spy..you can sac with therapy..you get 4 zombies to continue reanimting...using others aside from 1 griselbrand (because he lets you keep comboing) would be a bad idea...

[Ertai]

{Flayer of the Hatebound} is a win that turn guy. If you dredge him turn one, it's very possible to bring him out that turn or the next and win. Bring him out, 4 damage, flashback {Cabal Ritual} sacking him,5 damage, next turn bring ichorids out, 3 time X however many you have damage. Then sac ichorids for {Dread Return} to bring out {Golgari Grave Troll} good game.

All very possible.

[Ertai]

Is there any other way to get my whole deck into my graveyard?  I thought of {leveler}, but that's exile...

Yes. Put land in it.

[particle]

so forgive me because im not a legacy or dredge player but i dont understand how this deck works other than {flayer of the hatebound}. so if you {balustrade spy} yourself to mill yourself then what happens. u can dredge to eternity as long as your graveyard has dredge cards in it? meaning, if you have no cards in library can you dredge? even if you flashback {cabal therapy} to bring out {golgari-grave troll}, he doesn't have haste or anything right? so would you lose the next time you are expected to draw?