How fast is Modern?

[Mattao19]

I want to build a Modern deck and I'm just wondering how fast it is? Like when do most of the decks go off?

[Mattao19]

Hmm ok

[Kaworu, the Fifth Child]

Pretty fast, at my LGS it's consistenly over by T5 with every game

[imthelolrus]

Affinity or Boggle Auras (aka Aggro decks) can turn 3 or 4 at best. I've had games end on turn 4 with good hands. Most go on longer, midrange and control decks can stall out and eventually win with stuff like  {Celestial Colonnade} goyf  {Batterskull}  {Geist of Saint Traft} etc.

[Mattao19]

Affinity or Boggle Auras (aka Aggro decks) can turn 3 or 4 at best. I've had games end on turn 4 with good hands. Most go on longer, midrange and control decks can stall out and eventually win with stuff like  {Celestial Colonnade} goyf  {Batterskull}  {Geist of Saint Traft} etc.

On an unrelated note sorry but how much would a Russian Batterskull be worth?

And interesting. What kind of removal do most modern decks run?

[Mattao19]

The speed changes from deck to deck. Combo wants to be online by turn 4 (with wizards banning any decks that can go off turn 3 consistently), same with aggro decks. Tempo, midrange, and control decks are not afraid of grinding it out (I once had an 8/8 {{Cartel Aristocrat}} against UWR), but they will have their decks "online" so to speak by turn 4. You'll also notice a lot of decks generally don't stray above 4 mana, with exceptions being cards that can be cheated out or who win the game. A good guide to the format came during the GP Detroit coverage. So I guess long answer is that you're looking for a game plan that's up and running no later than turn 4 consistently

What's the fastest modern can get? I remember that thread saying its impossible to T1 in modern can you T2?

[Spencer Addington]

The speed changes from deck to deck. Combo wants to be online by turn 4 (with wizards banning any decks that can go off turn 3 consistently), same with aggro decks. Tempo, midrange, and control decks are not afraid of grinding it out (I once had an 8/8 {{Cartel Aristocrat}} against UWR), but they will have their decks "online" so to speak by turn 4. You'll also notice a lot of decks generally don't stray above 4 mana, with exceptions being cards that can be cheated out or who win the game. A good guide to the format came during the GP Detroit coverage. So I guess long answer is that you're looking for a game plan that's up and running no later than turn 4 consistently

What's the fastest modern can get? I remember that thread saying its impossible to T1 in modern can you T2?

Infect can

T1: forest, {Glistener elf}

T2:  forest, 2 {groundswell} and a {mutigenic growth} then swing for lethal.

[Spencer Addington]

The speed changes from deck to deck. Combo wants to be online by turn 4 (with wizards banning any decks that can go off turn 3 consistently), same with aggro decks. Tempo, midrange, and control decks are not afraid of grinding it out (I once had an 8/8 {{Cartel Aristocrat}} against UWR), but they will have their decks "online" so to speak by turn 4. You'll also notice a lot of decks generally don't stray above 4 mana, with exceptions being cards that can be cheated out or who win the game. A good guide to the format came during the GP Detroit coverage. So I guess long answer is that you're looking for a game plan that's up and running no later than turn 4 consistently

What's the fastest modern can get? I remember that thread saying its impossible to T1 in modern can you T2?

Infect can

Infect is also spotty at best and needs a godhand to win consistently

Sadly, it's true

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

The speed changes from deck to deck. Combo wants to be online by turn 4 (with wizards banning any decks that can go off turn 3 consistently), same with aggro decks. Tempo, midrange, and control decks are not afraid of grinding it out (I once had an 8/8 {{Cartel Aristocrat}} against UWR), but they will have their decks "online" so to speak by turn 4. You'll also notice a lot of decks generally don't stray above 4 mana, with exceptions being cards that can be cheated out or who win the game. A good guide to the format came during the GP Detroit coverage. So I guess long answer is that you're looking for a game plan that's up and running no later than turn 4 consistently

What's the fastest modern can get? I remember that thread saying its impossible to T1 in modern can you T2?

Infect can

Infect is also spotty at best and needs a godhand to win consistently

Very true, although turn 3 win is almost every game for Infect (except for the fact that {Lightning Bolt} is a 1 drop )

[Destore117]

-.- {goblin Charblecher} all I have to say about "how fast is Modern"

[Spencer Addington]

The speed changes from deck to deck. Combo wants to be online by turn 4 (with wizards banning any decks that can go off turn 3 consistently), same with aggro decks. Tempo, midrange, and control decks are not afraid of grinding it out (I once had an 8/8 {{Cartel Aristocrat}} against UWR), but they will have their decks "online" so to speak by turn 4. You'll also notice a lot of decks generally don't stray above 4 mana, with exceptions being cards that can be cheated out or who win the game. A good guide to the format came during the GP Detroit coverage. So I guess long answer is that you're looking for a game plan that's up and running no later than turn 4 consistently

What's the fastest modern can get? I remember that thread saying its impossible to T1 in modern can you T2?

Infect can

Infect is also spotty at best and needs a godhand to win consistently

Very true, although turn 3 win is almost every game for Infect (except for the fact that {Lightning Bolt} is a 1 drop )

Infect is super susceptible to burn.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

The speed changes from deck to deck. Combo wants to be online by turn 4 (with wizards banning any decks that can go off turn 3 consistently), same with aggro decks. Tempo, midrange, and control decks are not afraid of grinding it out (I once had an 8/8 {{Cartel Aristocrat}} against UWR), but they will have their decks "online" so to speak by turn 4. You'll also notice a lot of decks generally don't stray above 4 mana, with exceptions being cards that can be cheated out or who win the game. A good guide to the format came during the GP Detroit coverage. So I guess long answer is that you're looking for a game plan that's up and running no later than turn 4 consistently

What's the fastest modern can get? I remember that thread saying its impossible to T1 in modern can you T2?

Infect can

Infect is also spotty at best and needs a godhand to win consistently

Very true, although turn 3 win is almost every game for Infect (except for the fact that {Lightning Bolt} is a 1 drop )

Infect is super susceptible to burn.

Not really....You have {Vines of Vastwood} and {Simic Charm} but many players dump those on their turn to boost instead of using them to protect themselves.

[Mattao19]

Hmm ok

[imthelolrus]

Most common modern removal:
Path to exile
Electrolyze
Dismember
Lightning bolt
Terminate (for Jund)
Galvanic Blast (affinity)

[Mattao19]

I'm looking at infect and I'm wondering are there any cards liked Lightning Bolt but infect?