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[Ertai]

Wayman, Mason - The Easiest Fake Ever, 2013. Article. The Biggest Liar.

The point is, Wikipedia is not allowed as a reference in schools for a reason. Because I can go on there right now and change any article to whatever I want and add my little reference there and no one would be the wiser.

In fact, I would have people like you copy and paste it so you would think its legit.

Didn't they change it to where people couldn't do that anymore?

I have no idea. I haven't been in college for a while now. I don't go on there often, so I wouldn't know.

[Mattao19]

Wayman, Mason - The Easiest Fake Ever, 2013. Article. The Biggest Liar.

The point is, Wikipedia is not allowed as a reference in schools for a reason. Because I can go on there right now and change any article to whatever I want and add my little reference there and no one would be the wiser.

In fact, I would have people like you copy and paste it so you would think its legit.

Although I agree that it's not the best way for truth if you check the sources it's great. Whenever I start essays I get background info from there and then look at the sources to make sure

[Mlerner12]

Wayman, Mason - The Easiest Fake Ever, 2013. Article. The Biggest Liar.

The point is, Wikipedia is not allowed as a reference in schools for a reason. Because I can go on there right now and change any article to whatever I want and add my little reference there and no one would be the wiser.

In fact, I would have people like you copy and paste it so you would think its legit.

95% of the hundreds of times I've used wiki I've crossed checked it many times and it's correct.

[Arzair]

Brian Fantana: "They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time."
[cheesy grin]

[Piotr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortage_economy

I thought you were cool, and then you bring this nonsense.

I was really hoping for some actually credable.

I was in that queue, we were queuing for toilet paper. Credible enough?

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortage_economy

I thought you were cool, and then you bring this nonsense.

I was really hoping for some actually credable.

I was in that queue, we were queuing for toilet paper. Credible enough?

While I cant testify to Piotr's experience, Wikipedia has actually been found to have fewer errors than Britanica. They have changed their policy so that you have to submit changes which are then checked. Shortage economy is real and is easily explained by the basics of economics. This is a flaw that results from multiple forms of economies all working differently. No system is perfect, even you have to admit that there are errors with nomocracy too.

[Piotr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortage_economy

I thought you were cool, and then you bring this nonsense.

I was really hoping for some actually credable.

I was in that queue, we were queuing for toilet paper. Credible enough?

While I cant testify to Piotr's experience, Wikipedia has actually been found to have fewer errors than Britanica. They have changed their policy so that you have to submit changes which are then checked. Shortage economy is real and is easily explained by the basics of economics. This is a flaw that results from multiple forms of economies all working differently. No system is perfect, even you have to admit that there are errors with nomocracy too.

I'm the first to admit that no system is perfect. However, it is proven that in economy Socialism is bad choice for people when compared to Free Market.

The inevitable shortage economy which socialism leads to is just the tip of the iceberg. Main main grudge with Socialism, these days, it that Socialism is immoral. It punishes people in prevention of crimes, such as punishing people for not having a car insurance, even if there was never any car accident and nobody got hurt. It purports that goal justifies the means. It completely ignores 'no victim, no crime' rule. Socialism does to people what they do not want to be done to themselves, even if they have done nothing to hurt others.

Opportunity makes a thief, in the long run Socialism destroys societies by decreasing the number of people who are honest. It does not make sense to be honest in Socialism, it is better to lie that you are weak, unable to work, in need, so you get freebies. Everyone is doing that, government allows that, so why not claim? So people vote for socialists and claim the benefits. The remaining population of honest people who pay taxes for the freebies shrinks, and shrinks, and shrinks, the work efficiency drops, and drops, and shortages come, always.

Queuing for 5 hours to get hold of toilet paper, can you imagine that in free market economy? Queues caused by shortages of everything were every day reality of living in Socialism implemented, and it had nothing to do with the government being evil, it had everything to do with the proven fact that socialsm fails miserably at resources allocation and always leads to shortages.

[Piotr]

As for the Wikipedia - it contains true and false information. If Marx said one true thing among the lies, I'm not gonna hesitate to give him that. If Hitler got something right, I'm not gonna lie and say he was all wrong.

If Hitler did the same as your favourite Socialist party as far as running the economy goes, you have no right at all to get crossed if I compare your party economics policies to Hitler's, for this is a fact not a lie, and if you get crossed and in retaliation start being rude, you will be punished.

Eye for an eye is a very good rule but it works only once for each crime. It does not give the right of punishment to the punished. Some seem to fail to grasp this.

[Piotr]

He was, for sure, incredibly rude to you. But that's not a green-flag to be rude back.

You are talking nonsense here. Where's the logic?

If I was indeed rude*, it is absolutely a green flag to be rude back. What else should be my punishment? Death? Boycott of my app?

* no I wasn't.

Telling him his posts are "an insult to everyone who thinks logically" is pretty goddamn rude, man.

Check your chronology, man. What was first, 'Perhaps if you weren't in such a hurry to hate socialism you'd make less ignorant statements.' or 'an insult to everyone who thinks logically'? :p

Does executing a murderer make you a murderer?

[Gorzo]

My entire point is that chronology doesn't matter. Rude is rude. We're adults, "he started it" is not a viable excuse.

[Mlerner12]

My entire point is that chronology doesn't matter. Rude is rude. We're adults, "he started it" is not a viable excuse.

Unless it's a gunfight or some other aggresive and harmful activity, because then you can claim self- defense.

[Gorzo]

My entire point is that chronology doesn't matter. Rude is rude. We're adults, "he started it" is not a viable excuse.

Unless it's a gunfight or some other aggresive and harmful activity, because then you can claim self- defense.

I'm not talking about a gunfight. I'm talking about rudeness. Squabbling. Insults. Verbal argument. I'm talking about what actually happened here. I'm talking about what is relevant to this situation, and only what is relevant to this situation.

Murder is not relevant to this conversation - no one died. Self defense is not relevant to this situation - no one was in danger in any way, shape, or form.

[Piotr]

My entire point is that chronology doesn't matter. Rude is rude. We're adults, "he started it" is not a viable excuse.

Unless it's a gunfight or some other aggresive and harmful activity, because then you can claim self- defense.

I'm not talking about a gunfight. I'm talking about rudeness. Squabbling. Insults. Verbal argument. I'm talking about what actually happened here. I'm talking about what is relevant to this situation, and only what is relevant to this situation.

Murder is not relevant to this conversation - no one died. Self defense is not relevant to this situation - no one was in danger in any way, shape, or form.

Fair enough, I humbly agree.

[Necromancerman]

We should've kept Japan after WWII so now we could sell it to china and get the debt dropped

[Langku]

My entire point is that chronology doesn't matter. Rude is rude. We're adults, "he started it" is not a viable excuse.

Unless it's a gunfight or some other aggresive and harmful activity, because then you can claim self- defense.

I'm not talking about a gunfight. I'm talking about rudeness. Squabbling. Insults. Verbal argument. I'm talking about what actually happened here. I'm talking about what is relevant to this situation, and only what is relevant to this situation.

Murder is not relevant to this conversation - no one died. Self defense is not relevant to this situation - no one was in danger in any way, shape, or form.

Fair enough, I humbly agree.

I have to say I was disappointed by a few of your abrupt responses in this thread but this statement was downright honorable. Thanks for showing both sides of your passion Piotr. Your tenacity about your beliefs is commendable but your humble response was even more so.