Group Consensus pt. 6

Started by Spikepit, November 28, 2013, 12:30:16 AM

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Ertai

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Quote from: Dudecore on November 28, 2013, 08:40:25 AM
Because the reserve list is a ruthless fraud perpetuated by a greedy corporation. {Chains of Mephistopheles} sells for $2.70 on MAGIC ONLINE. That's probably about all it's worth IMO.

Could anyone look at me with a straight face and say that effect is worth $200+? Same with {Moat} ($343.70) and anything else on the reserve list that sells for big bucks. I bought a {Forcefield} on MTGO for .56¢. When these reserve list cards can be freely printed, you see the actual demand as opposed to the strict supply.

I agree completely.

Couldn't the same be said about money?

Maybe the cards aren't made as much. They may have only printed a few batches then moved on. Those cards are worth a lot of money to collectors. You can't truly collect mtg on mtgo like you can with the physical cards. I thinks that's the main reason these cards that don't seem like they're worth so much are, in fact, worth so much.

Dudecore

Quote from: Ertai on November 28, 2013, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 28, 2013, 08:40:25 AM
Because the reserve list is a ruthless fraud perpetuated by a greedy corporation. {Chains of Mephistopheles} sells for $2.70 on MAGIC ONLINE. That's probably about all it's worth IMO.

Could anyone look at me with a straight face and say that effect is worth $200+? Same with {Moat} ($343.70) and anything else on the reserve list that sells for big bucks. I bought a {Forcefield} on MTGO for .56¢. When these reserve list cards can be freely printed, you see the actual demand as opposed to the strict supply.

I agree completely.

Couldn't the same be said about money?

Maybe the cards aren't made as much. They may have only printed a few batches then moved on. Those cards are worth a lot of money to collectors. You can't truly collect mtg on mtgo like you can with the physical cards. I thinks that's the main reason these cards that don't seem like they're worth so much are, in fact, worth so much.

Well it is a game afterall. You'd like to have the cards to play with at very least. They only made a few thousand of these cards before they restricted everything; but that is just supply dwindling, not exactly demand. The cards are in demand, but the supply is kept low because of an agreement Wizards made. There is nothing super cool about {Underground Sea} that they could not/should not reprint, except the supply is kept artificially low. I'd think a freely printed {Underground Sea} would be worth around $20-$30.

Money has value if it is scarce also, it's worthless if they keep printing it. It doesn't make sense to say "all the money in circulation is the only money the will ever exist". Modern Masters taught us a lot about how to infuse more cards but not disturb value. People pre-MM could show up to an LGS with $100 and not walk away with {Tarmogoyf} because they had none. Supply did not meet demand.