Question

[Birdbrain]

How would a deck with no creatures win? Or even survive?

[Lyriczulu]

It's definitely doable but it just means you're relying on a combo to win, like Storm or {Scapeshift}. You either need to be fast or resilient so you can stay alive long enough to win.

[Stromack]

Mill and discard decks. I've glimpsed and mind funeraled opponents without creatures befofe

[Steerpike]

If no combo, just half removal half burn i would think :/

In order to capitalize most per spell (in order to end as quickly as possible) things like {Wild Ricochet would be good}

I'm not great at making decks...

[Birdbrain]

Well, the deck I have in mind has creatures, but the deck makes it so they die immedeatly upon entering the battlefield. Just trying to figure out how to make it work. I know there are other decks out there that use {heartless summoning}, but I want to do this with it

[Lyriczulu]

Well, the deck I have in mind has creatures, but the deck makes it so they die immedeatly upon entering the battlefield. Just trying to figure out how to make it work. I know there are other decks out there that use {heartless summoning}, but I want to do this with it

Is the goal to have them die immediately? Or is that the problem you're trying to solve?

[Birdbrain]

Well, the deck I have in mind has creatures, but the deck makes it so they die immedeatly upon entering the battlefield. Just trying to figure out how to make it work. I know there are other decks out there that use {heartless summoning}, but I want to do this with it

Is the goal to have them die immediately? Or is that the problem you're trying to solve?

i already solved it, {heartless summoning} I'm just wondering what else I would need to make the deck work

[Birdbrain]

Im just going to post what I have so far in modern

[Ertai]

Minds desire + tendrils of agony with lots of 0 costs = good game. Haha

40 card deck, with these two was pretty much an automatic win. 

[Charbelchers rage]

ISO scepter
Fog
ISO scepter
Silence
Win

[Birdbrain]

I posted a skeleton of the idea in modern

[Rass]

ISO scepter
Fog
ISO scepter
Silence
Win

Add  {Elixir of Immortality}
And all the other fog and counter spells for a long game

[Ertai]

ISO scepter
Fog
ISO scepter
Silence
Win

Add  {Elixir of Immortality}
And all the other fog and counter spells for a long game

{shatter} good game.

I still think {Mind's Desire} + {Tendrills of Agony} = good game.

[Rass]

ISO scepter
Fog
ISO scepter
Silence
Win

Add  {Elixir of Immortality}
And all the other fog and counter spells for a long game

{shatter} good game.

I still think {Mind's Desire} + {Tendrills of Agony} = good game.

Don't think I've seen a shatter used in a long time.  And if we are gonna play that game on what works to kill your deck what are you targeting because I can just keep recycling my elixir.

[Mintkid219]

I ran a blue black deck souly countering their creatures then either mind control or reanimate their own creatures:p