Esper Combo Deck

[Jdogtoocool]

Esper Combo Deck 68 cards, 8 sideboard 4 {Watery Grave} 4 {Temple of Deceit} 4 {Hallowed Fountain} 4 {Temple of Silence} 4 {Godless Shrine} 2 {Mutavault} 3 {Island} 25 lands 4 {Omenspeaker} 4 {Notion Thief} 4 {Duskmantle Seer} 12 creatures 2 {Syncopate} 2 {Stymied Hopes} 4 {Azorius Charm} 4 {Dissolve} 3 {Read the Bones} 4 {Whispering Madness} 4 {Supreme Verdict} 23 other spells Sideboard 1 {Silence} 2 {Ætherize} 1 {Detention Sphere} 3 {Far // Away} 1 {Thassa, God of the Sea} 8 sideboard cards Notes: I would like to add either the whip of Erebos or the infinite damage loop with sanguine bond and the vizkopa guildmage

[Jlamb5]

What's the reasoning behind {stymied hopes}? With {syncopate} as a 2 of here, wouldn't that be a better option as a four of instead, making it playable late game. You have tons of scry already so the scry effect is probably not as big a thing with just those two cards.

[Jdogtoocool]

What's the reasoning behind {stymied hopes}? With {syncopate} as a 2 of here, wouldn't that be a better option as a four of instead, making it playable late game. You have tons of scry already so the scry effect is probably not as big a thing with just those two cards.

I'm not very good with control and this is my second control deck I've put together. With that being said I agree with you. after play testing for a while, stymied hopes is very effective early on. I also like syncopate but the Scry is the difference maker here. Is a 3-1 ration in favor of syncopate better in your opinion?

[LadyGrixis]

What's the reasoning behind {stymied hopes}? With {syncopate} as a 2 of here, wouldn't that be a better option as a four of instead, making it playable late game. You have tons of scry already so the scry effect is probably not as big a thing with just those two cards.

I'm not very good with control and this is my second control deck I've put together. With that being said I agree with you. after play testing for a while, stymied hopes is very effective early on. I also like syncopate but the Scry is the difference maker here. Is a 3-1 ration in favor of syncopate better in your opinion?

{Symied Hopes} is great. It won me my first draft, so it's a definite keep for early game, as well as a scry. And it looks like you're using the scry ability as a partial theme to your deck anyway.....so I say keep!

[SoshiGanrou]

But syncopate exiles and there is still some grave play in the meta. I would favor syncopate.

[Pirate John]

Note that if {whispering madness} goes off while you have {notion thief} out, you'll prolly mill yourself out really quick

And with all that card draw in your deck, you might be feeding your opponent's steam.

And notion thief is extremely vulnerable in the meta ATM Q.Q

[Jlamb5]

As a one of stymied hopes become pretty useless. The chance of drawing it early is much slimmer and will cause you to have it more mid to late game. Definitely just go straight 4 of for the syncopate

[bennc7]

As a one of stymied hopes become pretty useless. The chance of drawing it early is much slimmer and will cause you to have it more mid to late game. Definitely just go straight 4 of for the syncopate

I agree with this, syncopate potentially costs the same, but you have a lot more value mid and late game, and the scry doesn't really make that much of a difference, you have scry on other cards, and you have card draw with notion thief and whispering madness

[Jdogtoocool]

As a one of stymied hopes become pretty useless. The chance of drawing it early is much slimmer and will cause you to have it more mid to late game. Definitely just go straight 4 of for the syncopate

I agree with this, syncopate potentially costs the same, but you have a lot more value mid and late game, and the scry doesn't really make that much of a difference, you have scry on other cards, and you have card draw with notion thief and whispering madness

How about 3x stymied hopes and 2x syncopate? (I ordered a foil playset of stymied hopes might as well use em you know)

After I stabilize the field I pretty much win (control basics right). Just need a few more pointers on stabilizing. More counter spells? Bring some kill spells?

[Jlamb5]

Honestly, to me, I see stymied hopes as a counter spell for draft more than anything. I don't think it fits in a constructed deck due to its bad play late game. The foils look cool, as we all know, but doesn't make them playable. It's your deck, you can tweak it however you want. I would play test it over and over again and see how useful those hopes actually are. The only way to find out if they are/aren't worth playing is to play test.

I like to proxy up two to three decks that top 8 at big events just to make sure I play against stuff that I will most likely run into at my FNMs.

[Jlamb5]

With {notion thief} and {whispering madness} plus all the scry effects that you already have, I'm not sure that read the bones is a requirement. What about {far // away} instead. At least as a sideboard option.

[Teysa karlov]

The infinite loop! Is with  {Vizkopa Guildmage} and  {Exquisite Blood}. Not  {Sanguine Bond}

[Pirate John]

The infinite loop! Is with  {Vizkopa Guildmage} and  {Exquisite Blood}. Not  {Sanguine Bond}

He's playing a different combo; {whispering madness} + {notion thief} tied into control

[Jdogtoocool]

The infinite loop! Is with  {Vizkopa Guildmage} and  {Exquisite Blood}. Not  {Sanguine Bond}

You're so right! That combo is not possible anymore in standard