Sigil captain and cathars' crusade

Started by Spencer Addington, October 05, 2013, 10:41:42 PM

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Spencer Addington

If I play card like {gather the townsfolk} and I have a {sigil captain} and a {cathars' crusade}, will the tokens enter as 1/1's and get the counters from {sigil captain} and {cathars' crusade} or will they enter the battlefield with counters in them because of cathars crusade and not benifit from sigil captain?

Mlerner12


Mlerner12

To be precise:
They're both "when another creature". So. You can stack it so the Cathar's Crusade goes off first, giving everything +1/+1, or give it 2 +1/+1 and then everything +1/+1. Was that clear enough? Might have confused people... It certainly confused me lol

Steerpike

Oops, you clarified right before i posted :p don't mind me

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

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Quote from: Spencer_addington on October 05, 2013, 10:41:42 PM
If I play card like {gather the townsfolk} and I have a {sigil captain} and a {cathars' crusade}, will the tokens enter as 1/1's and get the counters from {sigil captain} and {cathars' crusade} or will they enter the battlefield with counters in them because of cathars crusade and not benifit from sigil captain?
To elaborate...

When you cast {Gather the Townsfolk}, both (or 5 if you have fateful hour) creatures enter the battlefield and trigger both of the triggered abilities simultaneously ({Sigil Captain} and {Cathars' Crusade}). You then get to choose how they enter the stack. If you choose to have {Sigil Captain}'s trigger on top of {Cathars' Crusade}'s trigger the creatures would enter as 1/1's get the two +1/+1 counters and then be pumped up by {Cathar's Crusade} making them 5/5's (unless you have fateful hour which would make them 8/8's). If you did it the other way ({Cathar' Crusade} on top of {Sigil Captain}) then the creatures would enter the battlefield, get the counters from {Cathar' Crusade} and no longer be 1/1s so they would not get the +1/+1 counters from {Sigil Captain} because even though they entered the battlefield as 1/1's the triggered ability checks its conditions upon being triggered and upon resolution and because they are not 1/1's on resolution, the triggered ability fizzles.

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Spencer Addington

Thank you guys for the answers. I was a little worried, but it works the way I hoped.