U/W Control

Started by Vileo, September 25, 2013, 07:49:37 PM

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Vileo

U/W Control

75 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Hallowed Fountain}
9 {Island}
8 {Plains}
4 {Azorius Guildgate}

25 lands


2 {Ætherling}
3 {Omenspeaker}

5 creatures


3 {Cyclonic Rift}
2 {Detention Sphere}
4 {Riot Control}
4 {Azorius Charm}
2 {Syncopate}
2 {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}
4 {Supreme Verdict}
4 {Sphinx's Revelation}
3 {Dissolve}
1 {Curse of the Swine}
1 {Elixir of Immortality}

30 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Ratchet Bomb}
1 {Dispel}
3 {Celestial Flare}
1 {Rest in Peace}
2 {Ray of Dissolution}
1 {Psychic Spiral}
3 {Pithing Needle}
2 {Blind Obedience}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:
These are my changes to my U/W list for Theros. So far it has been functioning amazingly.

Pirate John

I'd replace the guild gates with scry lands, but that's just budgeting concerns.

I've never been a big fan of running 4 sphinx, but you do have lots of stall power

Vileo

There's no U/W scry land right now. And I might consider dropping a single sphinx. Not sure.

Pirate John

Ohh poop. Maybe in the next expansion.

Thassa could help a bit, but then you'd open yourself up for a turn.

JordanCirk

I agree with pirate about running 4 revs, even though it's one of the most powerful cards for control, it isn't needed as a 4 of. Also how do you like  {Omenspeaker}? I feel it's underwealming and not as strong as I would have liked it to be. To say the least, I havnt been very impressed.

Vileo

Omenspeaker is great. It blocks a lot of stuff, and it sets you up for good draws. It doesn't brick and wiff away lands like Augur of Bolas does.

Perhaps -1 sphinx +1 curse? Also, do I need a third Elspeth? She's really good, but I'm not sure. Maybe -1 Aetherling +1 Elspeth? I have enough draw an stall to hit Aetherling anyway, right? But then again, I play Aetherling t7 and win t10. Suggestions?

Pirate John

I think it's fine either way

Vileo

Then, in order to make sure my wallet doesn't hurt, I'm not going for a third, lol. But I think I like curse. I'm gonna think about the fourth sphinx slot a while more.

iTzTowelie404

Not a big fan of curse.  A likely time you are playing it is turn 4 or 5, and at that point your opponent has played a minimum of 3-4 dudes In the aggro matchup, you main phase exile 3 of them, next turn they swing for 8 or 9 and you are tapped out.

Pirate John

Quote from: iTzTowelie404 on September 26, 2013, 09:22:40 AM
Not a big fan of curse.  A likely time you are playing it is turn 4 or 5, and at that point your opponent has played a minimum of 3-4 dudes In the aggro matchup, you main phase exile 3 of them, next turn they swing for 8 or 9 and you are tapped out.

Late game answer to gods? Beats detention sphere, second only to azorius charm or planar cleansing / merciless eviction

iTzTowelie404

Quote from: Pirate John on September 26, 2013, 10:22:40 AM
Quote from: iTzTowelie404 on September 26, 2013, 09:22:40 AM
Not a big fan of curse.  A likely time you are playing it is turn 4 or 5, and at that point your opponent has played a minimum of 3-4 dudes In the aggro matchup, you main phase exile 3 of them, next turn they swing for 8 or 9 and you are tapped out.

Late game answer to gods? Beats detention sphere, second only to azorius charm or planar cleansing / merciless eviction

Then why not run ANY of the cards you just mentioned?  It is not a good card.  Sure, it is fun, but it isn't good.  I would rather run D-Sphere for sure.

Pirate John

I'll just cyclonic rift your dsphere on the End Phase of your turn, enjoy any Enter the battlefield effects, then get in for lethal :3

iTzTowelie404

Quote from: Pirate John on September 26, 2013, 10:50:23 AM
I'll just cyclonic rift your dsphere on the End Phase of your turn, enjoy any Enter the battlefield effects, then get in for lethal :3

I'll just swing for lethal with my 4 swine while you are tapped out?  Ur situation is so situational...

Pirate John

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Quote from: iTzTowelie404 on September 26, 2013, 12:51:45 PM
Quote from: Pirate John on September 26, 2013, 10:50:23 AM
I'll just cyclonic rift your dsphere on the End Phase of your turn, enjoy any Enter the battlefield effects, then get in for lethal :3

I'll just swing for lethal with my 4 swine while you are tapped out?  Ur situation is so situational...

... So you just supported my call? Lol. We're talkig about Swine Flu Vs. Detention sphere. Detention sphere can easily be distrusted this format

And I'm thinking the deck pilot will do math BEFORE choosing a value for X. Is that an indestructible god? I'll just turn him and that 4/4 into 2/2's

iTzTowelie404

Quote from: Pirate John on September 26, 2013, 12:57:46 PM
Quote from: iTzTowelie404 on September 26, 2013, 12:51:45 PM
Quote from: Pirate John on September 26, 2013, 10:50:23 AM
I'll just cyclonic rift your dsphere on the End Phase of your turn, enjoy any Enter the battlefield effects, then get in for lethal :3

I'll just swing for lethal with my 4 swine while you are tapped out?  Ur situation is so situational...

... So you just supported my call? Lol. We're talkig about Swine Flu Vs. Detention sphere. Detention sphere can easily be distrusted this format

And I'm thinking the deck pilot will do math BEFORE choosing a value for X. Is that an indestructible god? I'll just turn him and that 4/4 into 2/2's

For three mana I would rather D-Sphere than give him another dude.  I am saying if you run Swine then they swing at u for 8 with all their swines, and if you spent 3 mana on just exiling a god then they swing at you with all their creatures plus a 2/2 boar.  I have never seen a competitive deck run {Cyclonic Rift} and there is very little main board enchantment hate in any competitive deck ever.