so what do you guys realllllly think about the new elspeth?

[DirtyMustachio]

{Elspeth, sun's champion}
That and

Kinda want to know your feels on the new mono land {nythos, shrine of nyx}

So I want to run a two color deck, u/b with little to no u devotion. Like all mono white devo, With that^ land with u interrupt protection.

I realise that being legendary I'll probrably push two and if I happen on the second in a game I can use the first and then play/new sac/old.

[DylanW18]

She's honestly crazy. Lemme put it in perspective.

{Garruk Caller of Beasts} is $20 and a 6 drop, same as Elspeth. Here's the thing.

{Elspeth Sun's Champion} gives you THREE blockers to protect her. 3!

She board wipes massive threats.

Then all your tokens are 3/3 and flying. So amazing

[DirtyMustachio]

I'm cool, I'm cool. In fact I really like her. I just don't know how to play things with cmc >= 4 lol. I joke sorta. I'm so weird about u/w cmc.

And I don't know if I like artifact ramp from rtr/dm.
At most I'd run her at one I think.  Same with {evangel of Heliod} really but they really shafted the ammount of white devotion cards.

[EvACiDe]

Personally I think shrine to Nyx is a great card. Even having devotion of 3 to produce 3 mana with one land has the potential to be awesome.

[PapaBudz]

Haven't used her yet, but looks sick.

[gtfotis]

Personally I think shrine to Nyx is a great card. Even having devotion of 3 to produce 3 mana with one land has the potential to be awesome.

Ehh, you have to tap 2 colorless and the shrine to get the 3 mana, so you're technically paying 3 mana for 3 mana.. Unless your devotion is 4 or higher, or you NEED white (or whatever your devotion is) opposed to the 1-3 colorless, it wouldn't be worth it! I personally like the Shrine though :3

[LadyGrixis]

I pulled an Elspeth and pre-release and she won me LOTS of rounds during two-headed.

The only two matches we lost out of 6 were where our opponents milled her out of my library ); It was so sad!

[Moneekahh]

I pulled an Elspeth and pre-release and she won me LOTS of rounds during two-headed.

That's because most planeswalkers are grossly OP in limited. We got destroyed by  {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} in two headed, and he is not all that great in general, lol.

Anyway, I can't speak much for Elspeth in standard, as I do not play standard constructed, but I do know that they are planning to slow the game down in that format, so there may still be hope for her there. I'm not seeing much (if any) playability in her outside of standard and EDH. Overall, she has some nice abilities, I like her, I'm just not sure when the chance to play her in a deck would come up for me.

[LadyGrixis]

I pulled an Elspeth and pre-release and she won me LOTS of rounds during two-headed.

That's because most planeswalkers are grossly OP in limited. We got destroyed by  {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} in two headed, and he is not all that great in general, lol.

Anyway, I can't speak much for Elspeth in standard, as I do not play standard constructed, but I do know that they are planning to slow the game down in that format, so there may still be hope for her there. I'm not seeing much (if any) playability in her outside of standard and EDH. Overall, she has some nice abilities, I like her, I'm just not sure when the chance to play her in a deck would come up for me.

Ashiok was the reason she was milled D: but I love Ashiok as well (he feeds my Dimir cravings) and thankfully I pulled one! The only walker I didn't get was Xengos :\

I'm praying they slow the game down, so that you really only start to have a clear picture of who's winning around Turn 10. I would be okay with this.

[gtfotis]

I pulled an Elspeth and pre-release and she won me LOTS of rounds during two-headed.

That's because most planeswalkers are grossly OP in limited. We got destroyed by  {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} in two headed, and he is not all that great in general, lol.

Anyway, I can't speak much for Elspeth in standard, as I do not play standard constructed, but I do know that they are planning to slow the game down in that format, so there may still be hope for her there. I'm not seeing much (if any) playability in her outside of standard and EDH. Overall, she has some nice abilities, I like her, I'm just not sure when the chance to play her in a deck would come up for me.

Ashiok was the reason she was milled D: but I love Ashiok as well (he feeds my Dimir cravings) and thankfully I pulled one! The only walker I didn't get was Xengos :\

I'm praying they slow the game down, so that you really only start to have a clear picture of who's winning around Turn 10. I would be okay with this.

I would also be happy with this! It's no fun when your opponent is so fast that you lose by turn 3 or 4

[LadyGrixis]

I pulled an Elspeth and pre-release and she won me LOTS of rounds during two-headed.

That's because most planeswalkers are grossly OP in limited. We got destroyed by  {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} in two headed, and he is not all that great in general, lol.

Anyway, I can't speak much for Elspeth in standard, as I do not play standard constructed, but I do know that they are planning to slow the game down in that format, so there may still be hope for her there. I'm not seeing much (if any) playability in her outside of standard and EDH. Overall, she has some nice abilities, I like her, I'm just not sure when the chance to play her in a deck would come up for me.

Ashiok was the reason she was milled D: but I love Ashiok as well (he feeds my Dimir cravings) and thankfully I pulled one! The only walker I didn't get was Xengos :\

I'm praying they slow the game down, so that you really only start to have a clear picture of who's winning around Turn 10. I would be okay with this.

I would also be happy with this! It's no fun when your opponent is so fast that you lose by turn 3 or 4

I don't see how they are slowing down standard with the {xenagos, the reveler} {domri rade} deck out.  That deck is going to be blazing fast.

Build a Mono Blue and counter all those Walkers! Mwahahahahahaha! All the answers are held in Blue....

[EvACiDe]

I pulled an Elspeth and pre-release and she won me LOTS of rounds.

Lucky! During my prerelease I got screwed on what I pulled in my packs. Pretty much all my cards were off-color including 4 rares not to mention no mythics. <_< I was sad lol. Who I playe against first, got their God out both rounds and bent me over

[LadyGrixis]

-hugs- we all get bent over in Magic sometimes

[Gorzo]

I want a copy of this Elspeth in every single EDH deck with white in it that I ever build or have built. If that tells you anything.

[EvACiDe]

-hugs- we all get bent over in Magic sometimes

Lol *hugz* the people I played against were all like "I feel so bad." You don't need to feel sorry for me, it's not like I'm some new player they just stomped lol I just got unlucky.