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[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I'd like to point out that every time a people have been conquered, they were forced to integrate into the conqueror's culture or enslaved, with the exception of the Native Americans. Why is it that they get to have reservations while everyone else in history has just had to deal with losing their land?

have you read a history book? Millions of them were enslaved and worked to death or killed.

Yes, and many others were put on the Trail of Tears and forced to move west, I'm familiar with history. What I am saying is why is it when anyone else does it "that's war, its unfair" but when we do it we have to give millions of dollars to them, give them their own 'nations' and in some places (like where I live in WNY) even give them sole rights to gambling which leads them to taking in even more billions. What we did to the Native Americans was wrong but here we are almost 200 years later and we are still making reparations? Rome didn't give anyone reservations, the British Empire didn't give away millions to their conquered peoples, Alexander the Great didn't give out 'nations' to people, neither did the other thousand or more nations or peoples that have conquered lands so how come when we do it we have to give billions of dollars, land and apologize? Again, what we did to the Native Americans WAS WRONG but the people living on the reservations aren't two-hundred years old, they don't remember or know anyone who faced those hardships. In addition they live just like Americans, its time they put their big boy pants on and join the real world. America could use the millions of dollars that taxing them would bring in and seeing as to how they share the benefits (roads, mail and other public services) they should share in the cost (taxes).

[Dudecore]

Well they did steal their land, and give it to their buddies in corporations. I'm certain the government is getting off easy by giving them ghettos to live in and paying welfare. If the government had to buy the land which they built the transcontinental railroad on (with more Slave labor) they would still be paying twice as much.

That being said, war sounds like a decent idea when you're on the winning side. The native Americans were institutially erradicated by a government that had absolutely no right to do so.

For the record, Rome did pay severely for conquering other countries and integrate the people. As for paying reperations - they did in the form of giving those people citizenship and protection under the republic. Americans killed native Americans under the constitution of this country - a moment were ashamed. Forcing them to live in squalor. The government has no right to use force to harm anyone. They have just found a way to make you pay for it - by force. It's a cycle of stupidity and misplaced outrage.

If you were to be upset about anything, it's the fact that Native Americans don't have to pay taxes like YOU do. But the government has no right to take your taxes, so be angry at them. Not a group of people who were murdered for the benefit of private businesses. It strikes me as plenty silly to be angry at the folks who benefitted from the fact the a tyrannical government doesn't have a say in what they do.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Well they did steal their land, and give it to their buddies in corporations. I'm certain the government is getting off easy by giving them ghettos to live in and paying welfare. If the government had to buy the land which they built the transcontinental railroad on (with more Slave labor) they would still be paying twice as much.

That being said, war sounds like a decent idea when you're on the winning side. The native Americans were institutially erradicated by a government that had absolutely no right to do so.

For the record, Rome did pay severely for conquering other countries and integrate the people. As for paying reperations - they did in the form of giving those people citizenship and protection under the republic. Americans killed native Americans under the constitution of this country - a moment were ashamed. Forcing them to live in squalor. The government has no right to use force to harm anyone. They have just found a way to make you pay for it - by force. It's a cycle of stupidity and misplaced outrage.

If any country were to attack a reservation, the United States would take it as an attack on itself and defend it but that (just like Rome's actions) aren't reparations, they are defending their territory. Also, you act like Native Americans are living in slums when in fact they have their own land to live and build houses on: not quite a ghetto. I'm not saying that it was okay for the government to kill them and force them to relocate, I am saying we should treat them like citizens (what you claim as reparations above by saying "reperations - they did in the form of giving those people citizenship") but part of citizenship is paying taxes and contributing to society, not simply blocking the thruway every time we ask them to pay their fair share. In the end, I'm just asking for equality-everyone being treated equally regardless of your race and/or parentage-and giving Native Americans special treatment is an example of both inequality and discrimination.

[Dudecore]

Well then America should give them their land back, then purchase it from the Native Americans (if they're willing to sell). Any such laws would prohibit what The US Government did to them. This is not Roman times, and as a matter of principle we have a constitution - if the constitution does not grant protections for minorities then it is a useless piece of paper. The Native Americans should not "pitch in" and help an illegitimate, imperialist government.

You have not convinced me they should be made to pay taxes. Because everyone else does? Why? They're double-slaves in my opinion, and that does not cancel out.

Most of the highest crime areas in this entire country are on Indian reservations, look that up. And the fact that regular business would love to open up casinos and cannot is another example of stupid government interference. If all people aspire to in life is free land, a place to build a house and not paying taxes - it is easy to see how one could be envious of the Native Americans.