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Started by izik99, September 17, 2013, 10:20:58 PM

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Birdbrain

Why don't we keep the same state? And how come someone can chose to stop a habit, and keep at it even though the habit still overpowers them?

Dudecore

Quote from: Birdbrain on September 19, 2013, 10:11:37 AM
Why don't we keep the same state? And how come someone can chose to stop a habit, and keep at it even though the habit still overpowers them?

For what reason would maintaining the same brain state be important or benefittial to anyone?

Genetics, luck, upbringing, social, and environmental are all deterministic factors. Given that, as intellegent as you are, construct a way that those factors can contribute to drug addiction. Answer your own question from the perspective of a determinist, I will correct you if you're wrong about any thing.

Look at the cause and effect relationships between everything.

Apathy Reactor

Quote from: Dudecore on September 19, 2013, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 19, 2013, 10:01:29 AM
(Christians don't believe that the Earth was created by a human, and they also do not reject science, the world, logic or morality. Thanks for trying.)

Human was sort of short hand for a creator god. Thanks for adding so much, as usual.
God is not made in the image of man, man is made in the image of God. you are very welcome sir, as i always try to add more to any conversation.

Birdbrain

I'm not sure what a determinist is, though I'll try.
Someone has a habit. Whether biting there nails or something worse. Yet there brain through repetition has made pathways that basically make it easier, automatic even. Yet the person is determined to stop it. So they start replacing the behavior with another behavior. Or through distraction or something. Pretty soon, they have that pathway in disrepair and can start ignoring it. The question is though, what caused the initial want to change in the first place?

Piotr

Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 19, 2013, 09:22:38 AM
If you are a religious/spiritual person, I have found verses from the Qu'ran and the Bible that makes it sound like we have some free will, but not totally. Look up Surat Al Kahf (18):23-24 and James 4:13-15 NIV

And if you are more into science, modern physics and the concepts of relativity and quantum uncertainty and the dual model of light allow for plenty of systemic unpredictability in reality to allow for free will based on science.

Birdbrain

Galleleo was a Christian