Myths

[Dudecore]

What qualifies someone to be an "expert on aliens"? Do you just have to know abunch of stuff about things that have never happened?

As long as you put 10,000 hours into it.

Nice. Then everyone is an expert on aliens, as there is no proof that they've ever visited this planet. I spent most of my life thinking about things that have never happened, by not thinking about them.

[Dudecore]

What qualifies someone to be an "expert on aliens"? Do you just have to know abunch of stuff about things that have never happened?

What qualifies someone to an expert on religious scripts? There is no proof those happened either...

Touché. I'm also a biblical expert also. I'm racking up all sorts of qualifications.

[rarehuntertay]

What I find fascinating about the bible is the descriptions of giants, nephilim (aliens), angels (aliens), demons (aliens), other gods, wheels of fire (ufos), and a god that interacts with his people on a daily basis for hundreds of years, then isn't heard from for thousands (probably because this god committed suicide)... But what I like most is how this book tells us that the power to become a god is inside all of us...

[Mikefrompluto]

What qualifies someone to be an "expert on aliens"? Do you just have to know abunch of stuff about things that have never happened?

As long as you put 10,000 hours into it.

Nice. Then everyone is an expert on aliens,

Which proves that they'll give just anyone a TV show to talk about aliens on.

[EvACiDe]

(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.

This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.

hey Dudecore, it is called a theory for a reason.

Hey iceScythe. Look up the word "scientific theory" and notice how it does not say "hypothesis". A theory is a model that consists of facts, and gives science a basis to compare other facts about the known universe.

Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge. This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unsubstantiated or speculative. (Pulled from reading 2 seconds of the Wikipedia page on Scientific theory)

Also, you're guilty of committing an equivocation fallacy. Where you assume that both usages of the word "theory" apply to all the usages of the word theory.

Gravity is a theory and Germs are a theory. The Big Bang theory is the best model available to explain the formation of the universe.

actually gravity is a Law and the Big Bang is a Theory, Laws can be tested and are proven facts, whereas theories are supported by evidence but can not be proven or tested

Incorrect. Theories are most definitely testable otherwise they'd be useless. Einstein's famous Theory of Relativity for example has been tested countless times and been disproven 0 times. Once a theory has been rigorously tested and consistently proven true, it can then become a "law." However, there is no real clean cut definition of a law.

[Apathy Reactor]

Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.

Leave my Aunt alone! What did she ever do but go camping? So apparently if you are a little on the hairy side and enjoy the outdoors you are transformed into some monster!?!?

[Apathy Reactor]

Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.

Leave my Aunt alone! What did she ever do but go camping? So apparently if you are a little on the hairy side and enjoy the outdoors you are transformed into some monster!?!?

oh... I'm sorry man... I didn't know...

[EvACiDe]

Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.

Sorry, I'm not going to debate one side vs the other as we could be here for hours. I just wanted to point out that what you thought of as a theory was incorrect.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.

Leave my Aunt alone! What did she ever do but go camping? So apparently if you are a little on the hairy side and enjoy the outdoors you are transformed into some monster!?!?

Yeah, I'm sorry about what happened btw. The mob with torches and pitchforks was probably a bit much

All she wanted to do was hike to a waterfall!!!

[Apathy Reactor]

Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.

Leave my Aunt alone! What did she ever do but go camping? So apparently if you are a little on the hairy side and enjoy the outdoors you are transformed into some monster!?!?

Yeah, I'm sorry about what happened btw. The mob with torches and pitchforks was probably a bit much

All she wanted to do was hike to a waterfall!!!

well, at least they never caught her.

[Anoobass]

A little late again but gravity is a theory, and here is the difference between a theory and a law (I'm pretty sure, please correct me if I'm wrong).  To prove that gravity is a law, one must toss an apple, or such, into the air and have it come back down.  Simple enough, however to be a proven law, one must do it indefinitely.  So that makes it a theory.

[Apathy Reactor]

Please get back to me when you find a way to break gravity

[Kareason]

Theory- summarizes a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that have been supported with repeated testing. A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. Therefore, theories can be disproven. Basically, if evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, then the hypothesis can become accepted as a good explanation of a phenomenon.

Law- generalizes a body of observations. At the time it is made, no exceptions have been found to a law. Scientific laws explain things, but they do not describe them. One way to tell a law and a theory apart is to ask if the description gives you a means to explain 'why'.

Using gravity (which is both Law and Theory) as an example. The Law explains the what WILL happen when you drop the apple, the Theory explains HOW AND WHY.

[Dudecore]

There is nothing to do that he'll listen to you about. Modern day Christians have found that if they "agree to disagree" or "neither of us can be proven correct" gives them the out. They absolutely refuse to be logical. Fighting against it, tooth and nail, with irrational ideas, goal post moving (IceScyth) and other nonsense.