Silent arbiter

Started by Particle, September 13, 2013, 02:32:06 AM

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Particle

How does {silent arbiter} work in edh?
If somehow you got another creature out attacking another player, would only one of the defending players be able to block? How would this be decided?

Keyeto

Quote from: Particle on September 13, 2013, 02:32:06 AM
How does {silent arbiter} work in edh?
If somehow you got another creature out attacking another player, would only one of the defending players be able to block? How would this be decided?
When rules infractions like this occur, you get as close to the rules as possible. If you somehow get more than one attacking creature, only one creature can block.

Anoobass

Is there a way to possibly force 2 creatures to attack and break such rule?

Giggle the Draco Genius

{Geist of saint traft}, creatures that jam an attacking creature already attacking I one example I can quickly think of

Anoobass

Forgot about that effect, all I could think of was  {Ashen Monstrosity} and such, but the if able thing threw me off.  Thank you, +1

Particle

So Keyeto if only one player could block, would they just have to agree that one of them wasn't blocking?

Keyeto

Quote from: Particle on September 13, 2013, 03:30:14 AM
So Keyeto if only one player could block, would they just have to agree that one of them wasn't blocking?
Basically, yes. Only one creature can block, so they would have to choose. With EDH its a bit more lenient, as its a format dominated by house rules and what players agree on. The official rules have less of an impact depending on your playgroup, but officially only one could block.

Kaleo42

Players would decide in turn order as with any other decision involving multiple players. Once one decided to block that would be it and too bad for every who's turn comes after theirs.

Particle

Kept looking it up and found a page where a supposed rules advisor said according to rule 802.4b each player can block one. Not sure how to link rule but says "when determining whether a defending player's blocks are legal, ignore any creatures attacking other players and any blocking creatures controlled by other players."

Kaleo42

Quote from: Particle on September 13, 2013, 11:53:08 AM
Kept looking it up and found a page where a supposed rules advisor said according to rule 802.4b each player can block one. Not sure how to link rule but says "when determining whether a defending player's blocks are legal, ignore any creatures attacking other players and any blocking creatures controlled by other players."
That actually sounds right. I'll look back at section 506 as well as this 802. Im haven't seen this situation before but I do know that decisions are always made in turn order so it just boils down to if you as a defending player are aware of other defending players within the rules.

Kaleo42

802.4b: When determining whether a defending player's blocks are legal, ignore any creatures attacking other players and any blocking creatures controlled by other players.

That is definitely sound. Under my understanding of this rule I would rule that each player may block with one creature. I just sent one of our L2's a message on this.

Particle

Thanks, asked my local judge and he wasn't sure either.

Kaleo42

Yup, L2 agrees with my call on this. Thanks for mentioning that 800 rule.

IntoFire

I use one in my Exalted EDH.It works very well as the single {Aven Squire} gets very bug very fast.