American Exceptionalism

[BcBudds]

Holy .poo.! You pay 1.30-1.40 a liter (for those who are well...American that's $4.92-$5.30/gallon). When gas prices were that high here, people started throwing hissy fits. We are back down to around $3.74/gallon on average here.

Yeah I can remember when I was younger gas was never more than $1.00 a Litre (yeah sry not very good at metric/imperial conversion, you guys should just switch over. MM, CM, Meters, KM etc hehe) and my father has said he remembers seeing diesel way back for like ¢40 per Litre. Now I just walk haha costs so much to drive

[Dudecore]

When gasoline was cheap, everyone had big, inefficient behemoth vehicles. Now that it's expensive we drive more conservative vehicles. It's all supply and demand. Gas becomes too expensive - people stop buying it. In Europe gasoline is expensive, so more people drive mini-bikes around because of its fuel efficient. Diesel is cheaper, you get a lot of turbo-diesels.

[Piotr]

The US having the "most freedom" is not quantifiable, it also is not true.

Most freedom to mind your own business. Of course it was true.

[Piotr]

corrupting your law against your constitution.

Please explain.

Your constitution was written as a tool to protect people's right to pursue their own version of happiness. Freedom of the people was paramount.

Your laws are now written to enforce the one and only version of happiness enforced by the government. Protecting the people from themselves is now paramount, or at least that's what what it looks like on the surface*. I don't want nor need the government to be protecting me from myself, .love. off.

* the reality is that this whole welfare state and the resto of socialism is just a tool used by crooks to enslave people.

[Boringanarchy2]

The US having the "most freedom" is not quantifiable, it also is not true.

Most freedom to mind your own business. Of course it was true.

Actually the most democratically free nations are in Scandinavia according to the Global Democracy index put out by the Economist

[Dudecore]

The US having the "most freedom" is not quantifiable, it also is not true.

Most freedom to mind your own business. Of course it was true.

Clearly Hong Kong would win out here.

Things American is good at:
✔Highest prison population.
✔Obesity
✔Divorce rates
✔Illegal Drug abuse
✔Prescription drug abuse
✔Credit card debt
✔Student loan debt
✔Government debt

[#noided]

The US having the "most freedom" is not quantifiable, it also is not true.

Most freedom to mind your own business. Of course it was true.

Clearly Hong Kong would win out here.

Things American is good at:
✔Highest prison population.
✔Obesity
✔Divorce rates
✔Illegal Drug abuse
✔Prescription drug abuse
✔Credit card debt
✔Student loan debt
✔Government debt

While I agree that there are parts of this country where weight is an issue, the way "obesity" is calculated (BMI) is not the best tool ever. It makes a glaring oversight that muscle weighs more than fat. Obviously, this doesn't apply to most people, but it is a very serious flaw for a stat that is taken so seriously.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

The US having the "most freedom" is not quantifiable, it also is not true.

Most freedom to mind your own business. Of course it was true.

Clearly Hong Kong would win out here.

Things American is good at:
✔Highest prison population.
✔Obesity
✔Divorce rates
✔Illegal Drug abuse
✔Prescription drug abuse
✔Credit card debt
✔Student loan debt
✔Government debt

Very true, but lets remember there are a lot of people who aren't the stereotypical American (see my picture a page or two back).

[Piotr]

The US having the "most freedom" is not quantifiable, it also is not true.

Most freedom to mind your own business. Of course it was true.

Actually the most democratically free nations are in Scandinavia according to the Global Democracy index put out by the Economist

Democracy is a tyranny of majority over minority. Another words, two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. These days it is people who want to create government health insurance monopoly  and me deciding what level of oppression am I going to withstand.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

The US having the "most freedom" is not quantifiable, it also is not true.

Most freedom to mind your own business. Of course it was true.

Actually the most democratically free nations are in Scandinavia according to the Global Democracy index put out by the Economist

Democracy is a tyranny of majority over minority. Another words, two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. These days it is people who want to create government health insurance monopoly  and me deciding what level of oppression am I going to withstand.

Then how do we decide policy? "Eeny Meany Miney Mo", flip a coin, roll dice, mob rule (like in Egypt right now where democracy failed), anarchy, dictatorship...

[Piotr]

The US having the "most freedom" is not quantifiable, it also is not true.

Most freedom to mind your own business. Of course it was true.

Clearly Hong Kong would win out here.

HK didn't really exists when America was climbing to become superpower. It didn't happen overnight.

HK is a great example of a place showing how freedom is the most important factor of creating wealth. No natural resources but freedom of trade.

[Boringanarchy2]

The US having the "most freedom" is not quantifiable, it also is not true.

Most freedom to mind your own business. Of course it was true.

Clearly Hong Kong would win out here.

HK didn't really exists when America was climbing to become superpower. It didn't happen overnight.

HK is a great example of a place showing how freedom is the most important factor of creating wealth. No natural resources but freedom of trade.

Not sure what you mean by that second statement, Hong Kong has been a central trade port since before the 16th century.

Also, Hong Kong's wealth was in created after it was stolen by the British and flourished through imperialist trade. So I guess what you're saying is that vast wealth comes from other people.

[Piotr]

Your guess is false. If you have to guess what I'm saying rather than simply understand it, I'm afraid I was spot on when I used a certain word describing the quality of your prose. If this discussion is beyond your ability to comprehend, please leave.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Then how do we decide policy? "Eeny Meany Miney Mo", flip a coin, roll dice, mob rule (like in Egypt right now where democracy failed), anarchy, dictatorship...

Noticed you just skipped over this Piotr...

[Boringanarchy2]

Your guess is false. If you have to guess what I'm saying rather than simply understand it, I'm afraid I was spot on when I used a certain word describing the quality of your prose. If this discussion is beyond your ability to comprehend, please leave.

I was merely pointing out that your statement lacked context. Hong Kong got rich...through exploitation and lack of freedom.