Net Decks. A discussion.

[Moneekahh]

Considering MtG is based around cards that were created by someone else, saying that anything in the game is truly original is grasping at straws, in my opinion. I'm fairly certain that R&D had play tested top tier decks before they were ever a twinkle in anyone's eye.

[Mothaelon]

And also, do any of you realize that just because you put together a "net deck" doesn't mean absolute crap on player skill or ability?

That's how people win competitively, it's not the deck. It's the players.

I can't tell you how many times I won against American midrange or wolfrun back in the day and destroyed them because they had no clue how to play.

[Bookmeister]

I like how people say net decking is bad because it takes out the creativity.

Hmm, the entire card game is based around creativity.

We are using mythical and magical beasts and monster. Where is the lack of creativity? And, I don't really enjoy spending hours upon days putting together a really crappy deck that gets its face thrown in at an FNM. Sorry, I do not enjoy losing, so why not take examples from winning decks. And remember, every single net deck started as a home brew. People just enjoyed it and played it after it premiered.

It doesn't take out creativity, it limits it. If you brew your own deck it is by definition MORE creative than net decking. That said there is nothing wrong with net decking, I just prefer to brew my own. I do look at net decks and use ideas I find there. If you prefer using net decks because of time constraints or for whatever reason more power to you.

[Dmreiss]

I think net decking is okay for getting an idea and then making it your own.  But if you are just copying it without any changes, then what is the point?

What is frustrating happened at an FNM.  I had just home brewed a B/W/R deck to try out.  The top 4 all played  {Voice of Resurgence} and  {Restoration Angel}.  My deck did horribly against it and it was completely unsatisfying.  By about the third game I could predict what was in their deck.  One of my opponents completely misplayed it and should have beat me a few turns earlier than he did.  And really, just because you can buy expensive decks does not mean you can play Magic.

In short, I don't think net decking adds anything to the game.  Net decking just rewards those that want to copy and have the cash to buy the hot new card each rotation.

[Hunteroffire9]

Some decks you could say I net deck like gruul aggro I don't copy the list but if you want to be competative there is a small ammount of cards you can chose from. But if its a deck like jund I prefer to chose how much and what removal I use and what creatures and plains walkers but with something like gruul you only have a few 3 drops like domri, rekoner, or Phoenix, but with jund I can think of about 12 different spells of removal. I'm more of a net decker when I play aggro but when I play midrange or control since there's so manny options I play what is the most fun;)

[Mothaelon]

You realize the prices of the cards are nearly solely based on their impact?

Like, it's expensive because it is a grey card. And decks play them because they are the best. You can't get mad because its a good card then blame it on net decking.

[Birdbrain]

I have one word to say about net decking: PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPHHHH
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(Insert raspberry, and fart noises here)

I have nothing against net deckers. It's the act of net decking that I don't like. It seems lazy, and uncreative. I'd like to win competitively, but I'd rather lose with a deck I made up, than win with a deck I ripped off of someone else

Ok, that was more than one word, but still. I don't like netdecking

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I have one word to say about net decking: PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTTTT
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(Insert raspberry, and fart noises here)

I have nothing against net deckers. It's the act of net decking that I don't like. It seems lazy, and uncreative. I'd like to win competitively, but I'd rather lose with a deck I made up, than win with a deck I ripped off of someone else

Ok, that was more than one word, but still. I don't like netdecking

Amen!

[Hunteroffire9]

This could be considered a touchy subject because some people hate it or some people love it. I could see it getting into an argument.

[Moneekahh]

There's no argument here. There's people who appreciate net decking, and then there's everyone else, who is wrong. 😜

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

There's no argument here. There's people who appreciate net decking, and then there's everyone else, who is wrong. 😜

No, there are people who enjoy all of the aspects of Magic (including deck building) and there are people who would rather just dole out cash so they can feel accomplished.

[Mothaelon]

There's no argument here. There's people who appreciate net decking, and then there's everyone else, who is wrong. 😜

No, there are people who enjoy all of the aspects of Magic (including deck building) and there are people who would rather just dole out cash so they can feel accomplished.

So winning at competitive levels isn't an aspect of magic? Please go on and tell me how your opinions are what is completely right on what magic means to people. And you know how much money I spend on net decking? None

I trade, it's not a hard concept.

[Moneekahh]

There's no argument here. There's people who appreciate net decking, and then there's everyone else, who is wrong. 😜

No, there are people who enjoy all of the aspects of Magic (including deck building) and there are people who would rather just dole out cash so they can feel accomplished.

Hmm. That is a curious assumption as Noah and I haven't "doled" out any notable amount cash for our decks. We also brew decks regularly, but those are not the decks that we take to competitions.

[Mikefrompluto]

The level of hate in this discussion is very lopsided. Pro-net deckers couldn't are less, while anti-net deckers are passionate about not being a net decker.

[Bookmeister]

There's no argument here. There's people who appreciate net decking, and then there's everyone else, who is wrong. 😜

No, there are people who enjoy all of the aspects of Magic (including deck building) and there are people who would rather just dole out cash so they can feel accomplished.

That's not fair! I dole out cash AND build my own decks, they are not mutually exclusive.