Touchy Subject #7: Obama NSFW

Started by Taysby, July 23, 2013, 10:52:53 PM

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Piotr

Quote from: Taysby on July 28, 2013, 12:53:02 PM
Well there would be government oversight to keep them from charging.  Unless I'm overlooking something (tell me if I am).

Forcing someone to give away their property for free is illegal under iMtG law. There's nothing wrong with charging for the roads and paying for the usage. You charge and pay for your food and water, why not roads?

ihasfrozen

Quote from: Taysby on July 30, 2013, 01:38:26 PM
Ok, so the gov would have to keep them from charging too much if they charged for their road usage.  Whatever.

How would they regulate if they don't have money to pay police officers/military since all taxes are illegal....

Speaking of which, why bother printing the dollar at all, since the full faith and credit of the US isn't worth much with no credit.

Piotr

Quote from: Taysby on July 30, 2013, 01:38:26 PM
Ok, so the gov would have to keep them from charging too much if they charged for their road usage.  Whatever.

No, if something is too expensive, simply do not use it or ask for it as a charity. Magic got too expensive for me, I don't play Standard anymore, even if I really want. If they charge too much for using a car, I will fly more often and use more train. Or whatever makes sense in given circumstances.

Piotr

Quote from: ihasfrozen on July 30, 2013, 02:27:10 PM
Quote from: Taysby on July 30, 2013, 01:38:26 PM
Ok, so the gov would have to keep them from charging too much if they charged for their road usage.  Whatever.

How would they regulate if they don't have money to pay police officers/military since all taxes are illegal....

Government owns a lot of wealth. State owned this and that, you know. They can legally charge for use of the land, for example, and that's probably enough. But I would absolutely have no problem with charging everyone willing to become a US citizen and hold a US passport, a required amount of dollars per year, to support the army, police, justice system, and the minimal administration required to run them. I would be the first to apply for the citizenship ;)

Quote from: ihasfrozen on July 30, 2013, 02:27:10 PMSpeaking of which, why bother printing the dollar at all, since the full faith and credit of the US isn't worth much with no credit.

True! Everyone could print their own money. Money used to be equivalent of measurable worth, wealth. One dollar was such and such weight of gold, for example. Can't stop anyone from offering their own money, equivalent of a ton of crude oil, for example. Or a ton of rice.

Dudecore

It does not benefit anyone to charge you $100 per mile. People cannot afford to get to work, people cannot afford to sell wares, people cannot afford to buy them. If you're company does not make money, they cannot afford to run a business.

It's also extremely difficult to enforce a $100 per mile rule. Without a loaded gun to my head, I'm certain it would be a dubious proposition.

Piotr

Quote from: Taysby on July 30, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
I know.  I'm suggesting VERY LIMITED government oversight.  Just because if that happened, America's economy would go down the tubes and that would be very bad.

The economy is going to the tubes now because we let them interfere. There should be NO government oversight. You give them a little power and they will grow it into the bureaucratic abomination of Washington DC, bless them. In just a couple centuries.

#noided

Quote from: Gleemax on December 16, 2013, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: Piotr on July 30, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
Quote from: Taysby on July 30, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
I know.  I'm suggesting VERY LIMITED government oversight.  Just because if that happened, America's economy would go down the tubes and that would be very bad.

The economy is going to the tubes now because we let them interfere. There should be NO government oversight. You give them a little power and they will grow it into the bureaucratic abomination of Washington DC, bless them. In just a couple centuries.

If the government stops interfering as much, then big corporations will have more power.  THAT is what would cause the government to collapse.  The big businesses will run the government.  The way our government works is far from perfect, but most people would agree that it is one of the best in the world right now.

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Steerpike

Is this the Hobbit cuz we've got a necromancer up in here

Mlerner12

Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 23, 2013, 11:06:48 PM
I think Obama is trying to do the right thing but, and this is the truth, the Republicabs simply FON'T WANT to help the democrats. And Tgey don't want to agree. But yes. He has made some bad choices. But overall he's helped the US WAAAY more than Bush did, and Romney would have. Romney only would've helped the wealthy, and practically killed the poor. That's my opinion. I am not biased forwards any side. Also, I think Obama is getting some hate because he's black. One Romney campaign said this and claimed it "a handicap". What we SHOULD do:

RYAN HIGA! Watch the video.

But yeah, I'm not biased, and speak only the facts.
Srsly, a neg from July about my opinion? :P lol I don't really care

Mlerner12

Quote from: Taysby on December 17, 2013, 08:18:25 PM
I could go on and on about how those aren't "facts" so I can see why someone would - you.

And thanks for complaining, that makes you look good.
I wasn't complaining, I was just... Stating a fact that I was negged :) and it is a fact that I believe that, and you believe what you believe, etc, and that's what I meant ;)

Mlerner12

Quote from: Taysby on December 17, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
Saying "seriously?  Someone begged me?  Why?" I define as complaining.  I was rude about it though.  I apologize.
Well I never asked why, just said "lol I don't really care" ;)
Sorry if I'm being rude, I kind if have an inability to stop myself when I disagree with people....

Mlerner12

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Ps: Purposely spelled Friends that way 8)

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