Hidden strings

Started by Birdbrain, July 29, 2013, 11:07:51 AM

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Birdbrain

Lets say you unatp a taped permanent with {hidden strings} can you tap it again before the second untap resolves?

The1337Magician

No, because "tap or untap another target permenant." So you can't choose the same one to untap then tap.

Birdbrain

Quote from: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
No, because "tap or untap another target permenant." So you can't choose the same one to untap then tap.
thats not what I meant...

I meant if the permanent has a {T} ability, could you throw that inbetween the untapping of the strings

The1337Magician

You could tap it with it's activated ability, untap it and tap/untap another creature with Hidden Strings and tap him again. You can't choose the same creature to be untapped because it says another. So it doesn't matter.

Keyeto

Quote from: Birdbrain on July 29, 2013, 11:57:13 AM
Quote from: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
No, because "tap or untap another target permenant." So you can't choose the same one to untap then tap.
thats not what I meant...

I meant if the permanent has a {T} ability, could you throw that inbetween the untapping of the strings
You cannot. Both untapping/tappings of {Hidden Strings} occur during the resolution of the spell. You cannot activate abilities in the middle of a spell resolving.

Birdbrain

Ok thanks. The infinite combo I thought of can still work this way

Birdbrain

{hidden strings} on an evasion creature + {gilded lotus} + {strionic resonator}

The1337Magician

So unblocked creature deals damage, you trigger the ability and pay with the Lotus to copy. The most recent resolves, untapping your artifacts, but can you copy the triggered ability again? I don't think so.

Birdbrain

Quote from: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 06:49:34 PM
So unblocked creature deals damage, you trigger the ability and pay with the Lotus to copy. The most recent resolves, untapping your artifacts, but can you copy the triggered ability again? I don't think so.
the original copy never resolved

The1337Magician


Birdbrain

Quote from: The1337Magician on July 29, 2013, 07:01:19 PM
You're right.
dont say I'm right just because you don't want to argue, only say I'm right if I realy am. Don't be afraid to tell me if I'm wrong. That goes for everyone

The1337Magician

No. You are right. I was writing an argument when I realized that I was wrong.
The first one never resolved. The copied resolved to cast the spell and the other doesn't resolve.
You are correct. I apologize for the confusion.