Reverberate-does it work on overload?

Started by Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth, July 08, 2013, 11:25:06 PM

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Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

{Reverberate} allows you to copy target instant or sorcery spell and choose new targets. I have questions-
1) If you copy say {Mizzium Mortars} that has been overloaded, is the copy overloaded and how can you target?
2) How does it work on board sweeping spells like {Supreme Verdict}?
3) How does it work on spells like {Divination} that doesn't target?

TheRagingMage

1) {Mizzium mortars} text was changed when it was cast, so the {reverberate} copies the new text, not the cards original text, so the copy would be overloaded too.
2) {Supreme verdict} would be copied, but all it would do is destroy all creatures again.
3) There are no targets to change so you would draw two cards again.
:)

Kaleo42

Yes yes and yes.

{Reverberate} works like this:
Cast reverberate targeting a spell
When reverberate resolves if that target is still there then copy it and put (not cast) that copy onto the stack.
The copys resolves
The origional resolves (with other stuff inbetween if necessary and a priority pass on each step of this process)

It copies that exact spell not the card the spell came from. This means {simic charm} will have the same mode ({unsummon} effect for example cant be copied into {giant growth} effect). This also is true for X values and additional costs like overload.

Verdict will simple verdict twice. Good for undying removal.

The target clause only is relevant for spells that do target.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Gleemax on July 08, 2013, 11:31:43 PM
1) {Mizzium mortars} text was changed when it was cast, so the {reverberate} copies the new text, not the cards original text, so the copy would be overloaded too.
2) {Supreme verdict} would be copied, but all it would do is destroy all creatures again.
3) There are no targets to change so you would draw two cards again.
:)
Thanks but my questions are really more me copying their spells. If I copy their Divination, do they draw cards?
Also how about copying cards with x casting cost? Does my copy have whatever they paid for x or is it zero?

Kaleo42

As I said X will be the same as what was paid for the origional. X is 0 when it is on a card, these are spells we're talking about, that means X=X.

As for the divination you draw the cards because you control the spell.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Thanks and sorry Kaleo42 I posted before seeing your comment because I am on a tablet and it takes forever to type a on it.

Kaleo42


Crapshooter

I can see reverberate on supreme verdict as a response to {golgari charm}