Wild Beastmaster

[Mattao19]

 {Wild Beastmaster}
I play a deck revolved around this babe. It's a great deck, but at the last FNM the judges were confused by it saying that of I bloodrushed her my creatures wouldn't get the bonus. I argued and eventually won but they were still unhappy. So can somebody clarify this for me?

[Crapshooter]

{Wild Beastmaster}
I play a deck revolved around this babe. It's a great deck, but at the last FNM the judges were confused by it saying that of I bloodrushed her my creatures wouldn't get the bonus. I argued and eventually won but they were still unhappy. So can somebody clarify this for me?

The only feasible way I can see it working is if you stack the blood rush, the only reason I say this is because she triggers once you declare attacks, it wouldn't wor later.

[Mattao19]

This is how my turn goes:
1. Draw
2. Play land
3. Declare attackers, while declaring attackers add Bloodrush to Beastmaster
4. Blockers declared
5. Etc.

[MisterJH]

It works i believe, im pretty sure this has been discussed before. From what i remember in the fuzzy haze of my brain:
1) {wild beastmaster} attacks, and its +X/+X ability is placed on the stack, and unresolved.
2) as soon as the beastmaster is declared as attacking, it meets the conditions for bloodrush, since the act of attacking is not a stack-based action
3) you bloodrush the beastmaster(with {ghor-clan rampager} for example) and the beastmaster gains +4/+4
4) the ability that was triggered when the beastmaster attacks finally resolves, and checks the current power of the {wild beastmaster}, which will be 5
5) all creatures get +5/+5


Hope this was thorough and in depth enough that you can convince anyone. If im wrong, im sorely sorry

RESOLVED

[Mattao19]

Thanks a lot! It does help. The way I convinced them was like, look my whole deck is built around this ONE card do you really think I wouldn't know when it's gives out the +x/+x (I was kinda bluffing) but it makes sense

[Paraluke]

Yea I believe misterJH is right on this one, since triggers use the stack as well.

[Gorzo]

Yessir, JH has is, and with a rather well done explanation if I may add. It's all in using the stack on top of the trigger. Good show!

[Paraluke]

Apart I think it's all other creatures +5/+5

[Agarrita80]

Nice! With alot if weenie tramplers could be a quick kill! Oh and rancor too 😎

[Mattao19]

Ya that's my deck.
Turn 1 {Arbor Elf} or  {Avacyn's Pilgrim}
Turn 2  {Burning-Tree Emissary} and  {Wild Beastmaster}
Turn 3 Swing with everything and have blood rush from at least one of these guys  {Ghor-Clan Rampager},  {Slaughterhorn}, or  {Rubblebelt Maaka}

[Crisys]

Ok, so I know this is an old topic and has been "resolved" but I had an issue at FNM.

A player who I know to be very veteran said that isn't how the card works.

I declare attackers and {wild beastmaster} goes on the stack.  He says that bloodrush is unable to be played because the beast master is yet to be "attacking" therefore the stack resolves before bloodrush is able to be applied.

Can anyone shed light on this? Maybe someone who has god tier judge status?

If anyone at the fnm said it I would have disregarded them, but this guy has been playing since forever.

[Paraluke]

When you declare beastmaster as attacker, the trigger happens and is put on stack. It will resolve the next time a player has priority.

By then beastmaster IS attacking, isn't it?

[Mattao19]

Yes then you Bloodrush and the Bloodrush goes on the stack. Bloodrush resolves then  {Wild Beastmaster}s ability resolves then all other creatures get +X/+X

[Crisys]

When you declare beastmaster as attacker, the trigger happens and is put on stack. It will resolve the next time a player has priority.

By then beastmaster IS attacking, isn't it?

Does this mean the trigger resolves when I, the attacking player, gains priority to bloodrush my attacking creature?

[Keyeto]

When you declare beastmaster as attacker, the trigger happens and is put on stack. It will resolve the next time a player has priority.

By then beastmaster IS attacking, isn't it?

Does this mean the trigger resolves when I, the attacking player, gains priority to bloodrush my attacking creature?

Triggers do not resolve when the next player gains priority. They resolve when priority is passed between all players in the game.

You attack with the Beastmaster, and its trigger goes on the stack. It is now an attacking creature. In response to that trigger, you bloodrush it. Once priority is passed between players, bloodrush resolves, followed by the Beastmaster trigger. The trigger will then determine the bonus based on the Beastmaster's new power.