M14 new rules.

[Death Gaara]

And one more thing is that this shouldn't be about which rule was better. That isn't whats important. It happened. Its done with. And none of what we say will change it. But what matters is how we adjust our play to deal with the game. Strategy exists in a strategy game. This rule doesnt take that way. When you examine a card like phantasmal image you shouldn't have to think "Ok its a creature. It can be ANY creature. But it can also be a Doom Blade." Say that about Jace. "Ok its a planeswalker. It brainstorms, it bounces dudes, and oh yeah it also kills my opponents jaces or renders cards in their hand useless for no reason other than its name."

Edit: Clicked the wrong button. Sorry about that.

DG

While some of what you say is correct, the fact is it DOES matter. We are the consumers and if we are unhappy, then we have the right to say so. I take it you are newer to the game yes? Take it from somebody who has played since the first Legend rule, since damage went on the stack, and who played in the days of mana burn. This game IS getting more and more simple as the years pass. Cryhard WotC fanboys would love to argue with me, but the fact remains that Magic is becoming a shell of its former self. You should not have to break the game down this much to people. If people just quit whining and started using there heads, then we would be far better off right now.

[Mikefrompluto]

Wizards has even ruined DnD! From what my tabletop friends say, 4th edition sucks. I hate that they're starting to dumb Magic down. I blame it on people's decreasing attention spans and constantly wanting to be told how things are. Everything is NOW NOW NOW. Heaven forbid you actually have to read something for yourself and make sense of it.

[MisterJH]

Wizards has even ruined DnD! From what my tabletop friends say, 4th edition sucks. I hate that they're starting to dumb Magic down. I blame it on people's decreasing attention spans and constantly wanting to be told how things are. Everything is NOW NOW NOW. Heaven forbid you actually have to read something for yourself and make sense of it.

I dont see how they can only cater to the ignorant or slow/lazy... Wtf this was THE GAME for the people with intelligence, do they not care whatsoever about anyone else? Are they really so greedy and selfish? Veterans have no reason to play, and new players are just wasting there time playing a more expensive version of YuGiOh or freakin Pokemon. Its crazy, it makes me want to quit every day. However its just to much entertainment to try and make this game fun still. I hate what this game has done to me lol.

[AgrusKos]

Since I am younger, what was mana burn?

[Death Gaara]

Since I am younger, what was mana burn?

If you had mana in your manapool at the end of a phase, you would take one damage for each mana that you did not spend. If you were even average at the game it almost never mattered since most people could manage their resources well enough that it almost never happened.

[AgrusKos]

Since I am younger, what was mana burn?

If you had mana in your manapool at the end of a phase, you would take one damage for each mana that you did not spend. If you were even average at the game it almost never mattered since most people could manage their resources well enough that it almost never happened.

Thanks!

[Death Gaara]

Since I am younger, what was mana burn?

If you had mana in your manapool at the end of a phase, you would take one damage for each mana that you did not spend. If you were even average at the game it almost never mattered since most people could manage their resources well enough that it almost never happened.

Thanks!

Sure, no problem.

[Rass]

Wizards has even ruined DnD! From what my tabletop friends say, 4th edition sucks. I hate that they're starting to dumb Magic down. I blame it on people's decreasing attention spans and constantly wanting to be told how things are. Everything is NOW NOW NOW. Heaven forbid you actually have to read something for yourself and make sense of it.

Dnd after 2nd edition sucked.

[Mikefrompluto]

Wizards has even ruined DnD! From what my tabletop friends say, 4th edition sucks. I hate that they're starting to dumb Magic down. I blame it on people's decreasing attention spans and constantly wanting to be told how things are. Everything is NOW NOW NOW. Heaven forbid you actually have to read something for yourself and make sense of it.

Dnd after 2nd edition sucked.

That's what I hear. Do you listen to Nerd Poker by any chance?

[Wally]

Oh. And rules changes can be revoked. I'm sure it won't happen before they are rolled out, but will possibly change after a certain amount of time. The trigger on the stack/ missed trigger one has changes many times I believe.

[Kaleo42]

Not bothering to read the full thread but I have one note to share on the stupid rule change.

This probably means Theros will be a heavy legendary set.

[All-Mana Mania]

Not bothering to read the full thread but I have one note to share on the stupid rule change.

This probably means Theros will be a heavy legendary set.

Wait... It is all piecing together. Gods, bew legendary rule, THEROS!!!! Lol +1 kaleo for using your "context clues" lol

[Mentonin]

I have no idea why people hate the land rule. It simply rectifies the rule to be used the way most people already did anyway.

I understand why they don't want clones and such to be kill spells as well, but dislike the rule. You aren't supposed to have 2 equal cards in play if they have the legend type, taking that away makes your deck much more of a controlled environment, as much as the deimplementation of control strategies. This is dumbing the game down so much that you need not care about what your opponents permanents are, what resources he has, deck color, mana costs nor even cards in hand of your opponent if you are playing standard. It is just you, your game and his dmg output next turn. That is it.

I disapprove of taking away the need for board awareness

[MisterJH]

Seriously its crazy. Itd make much more sense to have a rule stating if two or more of the same legendary CARD are out, both die. For example, {clone} is NOT {emrakul, the aeons torn}, but a clone. This would possible because of what a clone IS. Therefore both could coexist. Yet playing your own emmy would be impossible, as only one of the actual legendary may exist as itself, and both should die. My logic is that if you have a baseball, then you make a baseball out of playdoh, its still playdoh. If you have a legendary, and clone a legendary, well the clone is just a mimicing mold. However tokens actually produce a card and would therefore kill a copied(as a token) legendary. Anyone follow? Sorry its been a long day im exhausted

[Crapshooter]

I think I'm following but if you clone it and keep both then how is that even close to fair?