M14 new rules.

Started by Harmon74, May 23, 2013, 01:15:12 AM

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Harmon74

What's everybody's thoughts on the rules changes for m14?

Coffee Vampire

I like them. They make the game more intuative and it just makes a whole lot more sense. The new rule changes prevent some stupid things from happening, prevent game losses due to stupid reasons, and make the game more fun by eliminating the "I play jace to kill your jace" or "I play my geist to kill yours" BS.

My favorite is the sideboarding change. That really needed to happen.

Wally


Millionlittlee

I like the one legendary rule it made sense to me as in there is one of this creature you are on one planes, and if two exist game breaks. That and I used clone do much as a kill spell it. That really hurts me

Edit: I don't like the legendary rule

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

I don't like the new rules at all.  Especially the legend, and the planeswalker rule.  The land bugged me too!  I mean that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  I cared so little about the keyword thing in all honesty.

But the three rule changes were in my thought stupid.  What do you think made Obdozat so unique?

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

I forgot to mention.  How about that {Primal Surge}.  What will happen to that?

I honestly think that they are trying to make mtg dumbed down an easier.  I don't like this slippery slope.

Wally

Extra land plays just got harder to exploit, and the sideboard just got derped. I mean, how hard is it to count your 15 card sideboard and make sure you have them all there.

InfinitiveDivinity

What the .love.. Legendary creatures don't kill each other now? What? Why the hell would you change that? Are you freaking kidding me? Sometimes that is literally the only way to deal with a legendary creature on the other side of the field. Wizards, you really let me down this time.

Lame.

InfinitiveDivinity

That Legend/Planeswalker rule is so drastic that literally makes me question whether or not I want to continue playing Magic after July.

FlickerYourOwnIdentity

Quote from: Wally on May 23, 2013, 02:08:34 AM
Extra land plays just got harder to exploit, and the sideboard just got derped. I mean, how hard is it to count your 15 card sideboard and make sure you have them all there.
Exactly, especially about land play.  But I still ask the question, what will happen to {primal surge}, after all you can't play the land if you run into it, defeating the purpose of the card.

I think we should send a civilized message to Mark Rosewater about the rule changes, and why they happened?

Millionlittlee

Yes that should happen. It needs to happen

Crapshooter

SB change ok, livable, legendary tool is just stupid, makes things WAY too easy, so much for board consideration. Just play whatever you want don't worry that your opponent already has it.

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 23, 2013, 02:35:24 AM
Quote from: Wally on May 23, 2013, 02:08:34 AM
Extra land plays just got harder to exploit, and the sideboard just got derped. I mean, how hard is it to count your 15 card sideboard and make sure you have them all there.
Exactly, especially about land play.  But I still ask the question, what will happen to {primal surge}, after all you can't play the land if you run into it, defeating the purpose of the card.

I think we should send a civilized message to Mark Rosewater about the rule changes, and why they happened?
I think {Primal Surge} is an exception because Lands meet the requirement of the card which is Permanent.

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Crapshooter on May 23, 2013, 02:43:28 AM
SB change ok, livable, legendary tool is just stupid, makes things WAY too easy, so much for board consideration. Just play whatever you want don't worry that your opponent already has it.
Yeah the more I think about it the more I get upset. I can't stomach this right now. I play Magic as often as I can on a competitive level. I pay money to play in larger tournaments. I play Modern as often as I can. This seriously upsets me. The repercussions are huge! Now one can swap out PW's when they topdeck another. "Yeah, I'm gonna -2 Lilly then play another. The second will stay in play, I'll let my first one die because I want to -2 you again.", "Yeah, my {Obzedat, Ghost Council} is going to beat your face in and not even {Lord of the Void} ripping one from the top of my library is going to save you now because they won't kill each other.". I hope when I wake up tomorrow this bullshit will be erased from existence. This is just plain dumb.

Millionlittlee

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 23, 2013, 02:53:39 AM
Quote from: Crapshooter on May 23, 2013, 02:43:28 AM
SB change ok, livable, legendary tool is just stupid, makes things WAY too easy, so much for board consideration. Just play whatever you want don't worry that your opponent already has it.
Yeah the more I think about it the more I get upset. I can't stomach this right now. I play Magic as often as I can on a competitive level. I pay money to play in larger tournaments. I play Modern as often as I can. This seriously upsets me. The repercussions are huge! Now one can swap out PW's when they topdeck another. "Yeah, I'm gonna -2 Lilly then play another. The second will stay in play, I'll let my first one die because I want to -2 you again.", "Yeah, my {Obzedat, Ghost Council} is going to beat your face in and not even {Lord of the Void} ripping one from the top of my library is going to save you now because they won't kill each other.". I hope when I wake up tomorrow this bullshit will be erased from existence. This is just plain dumb.
Well in that particular case the life gain and lose would cancel each other out