Whatever you feel like man

[MuggyWuggy]

Religion is the cause of people trying to reverse Roe vs Wade and make abortions more difficult for those who wish to have them

Because your god says that it's a life that must be born, a girl who is 16 must throw her own life away to ensure she can bring a child into a broken family? It was gods plan so let it be?
No that's absurd. The creator of us wouldn't want to send a child through instant misery, it's lack of logic in society that encourages it

[Destore117]

I'm not saying you "can't post" all I'm saying is you don't have to come in and completely tear down religion. Like yes you can post (I can't stop you for 1) but all I'm saying is if it's something like that. Basically saying religion is a ton of 🐃💩 then just don't because its rude. Especially since most people who've been following this have been Christian or some sort of religion. That's all I am saying. And I'm not defending religion either btw. I'm simply not against it. It's what some people use to make it through their lives and I respect that. I could point out list upon list of religious faults and flaws in beliefs.
But I don't because its not my place to judge them for believing in something when I myself. Do not. And what big 3 were you referring to?
I don't care what people believe in as I said "it could be a speck of dirt on their hand" I believe that's what I said. I just don't think you need to be so harsh against those who are religious. At least. Not on a forum like this. Go to some protesting religion thread if that's what you're about. Just you have no right to come in and say
Hey. What you believe in will only lead to your life being filled with a ton of .poo.

[Destore117]

So like.
Saying you're atheist. Do you mean you simply refuse to believe there is a god? Or like...idk...never understood atheism...

I do not believe in a god. In my life, I have seen no reason to believe in it. I respect those who do, as I think religion serves a purpose in having us better ourselves. But that is just it. Religion doesn't just do that. The flaw with it is that it encourages you to look down on those who do not agree. You are Christian, correct? So I am doomed to hell if I do not convert? It's this kind of belief that I find so distasteful. If religion could contain itself to its members it would be so much better. As it is, when people in the US say that homosexual is against the Bible and all that... That is just awful. That's an example of religion imposing itself on others. It is not up to relgion to decide what is natural and unnatural. If two men love each other, that is something between the two of them that NO ONE has any power of judgement over.

I have infinite respect for that last bit considering almost all of my friends are bisexual or gay or lesbian.
It's like. When states try to pass a law saying gay marriage can be legal and a bunch of religious people protest it...it's like what are you doing?
God made that girl like women. Or that guy like men. Who cares. Gossip about it in secret or something don't go and wave a sign saying oh you like men and you're a man so you're going to hell...
That is probably the most prominent flaw I've seen with religion.
And thanks for clarifying the different translations ice.

[MuggyWuggy]

If you look at the state of the earth right now....religious people have done it wrong

If the tops of religion falls and it starts from a base, maybe there is hope, but we got popes retiring, Israel holy war never stopping, people killing people in the name of whoever. It makes some people happy but I feel personally its done more wrong than right in the last 100 years.

I would LoVE to hear of more various churches heading to Thai land to free prostitutes from brothels and help rehabilitate them. My cousin has done this with his church. Unfortunately this good is outweighed so much by the bad.

For those of you who are religious out there: how do you feel about those who wear your religion as a title for their personal agendas?

I just strongly feel a lack of any authenticity with most religions now

[Destore117]

I can't disagree that religions have done wrong
But it's not truly the religion that did it.
It is solely the people. Who say they follow those religions. But then go and break their own laws. I'm sure it's not what the founders of their religions hoped for there beliefs to become. So we shouldn't just blame the religion
Oh this priest did this?
Catholics are all like that.
It's not the religion doing wrong. It is the people.

[MuggyWuggy]

So I know this may offend people but it shouldn't. It's simply my opinion.
I am sick of all the "Classifications" of different kinds of people.
Oh you have glasses?
Nerd.
Oh you wear heavy black boots?
Goth.
Oh you have colorful hair?
Hipster
Oh you wear a backwards baseball cap?
Swag f**
On and so forth.
Anyways! It just annoys me that there are SO many different ways to divide people when many of these assumptions are false and based on nothing. It's just how "Society" (or the foolish individuals that opinions somehow count as "Society")
Pictures these people.
I get sick of it.
Now am I saying I'm not guilty of it?
No. I have seen a quiet girl with long black hair and considered she might be emotionally distressed (emo) but like. Seeing it happen to people who already get enough grievances out of their daily lives such as personal home problems, financial issues, etc. it makes me sick that people can find just so many ways to annoy each other.
Moral of this is.
People. You don't know people.
Stop judging.

I'd also like to point out from what this thread started from.

Religion has always said the "almighty" will judge the people.

So is this thread a statement to thwart the almighty(s)?

#philosoraptor

[MuggyWuggy]

I can't disagree that religions have done wrong
But it's not truly the religion that did it.
It is solely the people. Who say they follow those religions. But then go and break their own laws. I'm sure it's not what the founders of their religions hoped for there beliefs to become. So we shouldn't just blame the religion
Oh this priest did this?
Catholics are all like that.
It's not the religion doing wrong. It is the people.

But what is a religion without its people?

[Destore117]

And simply saying religions are bad based on actions of that religions so called "leaders" which I have always thought was strange.
Shouldn't religion be carried out by individuals? Who answer to their god. Not their "religious leader" because this can lead to people believe their leader is like personally in touch with. Or is. Their deity. Which often leads to a lot of issues.
Is tied back into the judgmental issues I brought up starting this thread.

[Destore117]

I'm not saying the religion doesn't need it's people. I'm saying it shouldn't be judged by the bad individuals that say they follow it.
I have been best friends with 2 devout Christians almost my whole life. And they are some of the most amazing people I know.
They simply follow their religion. And we get along fine. They don't try to press it on me. And I don't try to persuade them from it. It just is what it is. That's an example of good "religion" but it's not the religion that's good or bad. It's the people.

[MuggyWuggy]

I'm not saying the religion doesn't need it's people. I'm saying it shouldn't be judged by the bad individuals that say they follow it.
I have been best friends with 2 devout Christians almost my whole life. And they are some of the most amazing people I know.
They simply follow their religion. And we get along fine. They don't try to press it on me. And I don't try to persuade them from it. It just is what it is. That's an example of good "religion" but it's not the religion that's good or bad. It's the people.

Do you think these people would be worse if they weren't religious?

[MuggyWuggy]

And simply saying religions are bad based on actions of that religions so called "leaders" which I have always thought was strange.
Shouldn't religion be carried out by individuals? Who answer to their god. Not their "religious leader" because this can lead to people believe their leader is like personally in touch with.

Thing is - when you start practicing a religion you have to look towards an elder to teach you the ways, this is where the sith corrupt the Jedi

Also why was religion made? To help control the population by manipulating them is what I believe.

How can you get 20,000 people to be orderly - tell them the storm and earthquake came due to them not sacrificing the goats milk at the church temple. Their greed has caused god to get angry

[Destore117]

It's possible. Because the one. She used her faith in God to help her through the fact she was raped. If she didn't have that. She would be still trying to get through it. Where as. Believing in something. And believing no matter what someone was watching over her, helped her cope and persevere and become one of the strongest people I know.
The other. Without religion. I probably wouldn't have met her because I went to youth group with my ex. And met her. And we've been great friends since then.

[Destore117]

And simply saying religions are bad based on actions of that religions so called "leaders" which I have always thought was strange.
Shouldn't religion be carried out by individuals? Who answer to their god. Not their "religious leader" because this can lead to people believe their leader is like personally in touch with.

Thing is - when you start practicing a religion you have to look towards an elder to teach you the ways, this is where the sith corrupt the Jedi

Also why was religion made? To help control the population by manipulating them

You can't know for sure that that is the reason religion exists. Nobody can know why it was created because they aren't its creators. Maybe there truly is a God who inspired them. Maybe there isn't. Nobody knows.

[MuggyWuggy]

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The other. Without religion. I probably wouldn't have met her because I went to youth group with my ex. And met her. And we've been great friends since then.

The first person I can agree upon, but the second scenario proves nothing of how lack of religion would have made her life worse (other than not knowing you)

[Destore117]

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The other. Without religion. I probably wouldn't have met her because I went to youth group with my ex. And met her. And we've been great friends since then.

The first person I can agree upon, but the second scenario proves nothing of how lack of religion would have made her life worse (other than not knowing you)

I thought we were simply talking about them in general not the quality of their life.
Which is perfectly normal as far as I can see.
But I wouldn't have known her had it not been for youth group. Which she went to because she is religious.