M14 (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

[IntoFire]

I'm a new player, only been at it a few months, but I love control. aggro is pretty simple and strait forward, but countering them at every turn is a pretty great feeling, even in standard when everybody is like "wtf is this guy doing?"
my favorite win condition is always milling though, which I will usually shoot for if their deck has less than 120 cards.

Woo another control fan!!! (And mill to!)

Yup! I've always preferred outsmarting to overpowering, but Mill n Kill at the same time? I like that strategy too, as (even though they can't really do anything about it) they will watch their health more than their library.

I usually don't go against a mill deck unless I'm using my Izzet deck.

yup! I like izzet! only other thing that is good against mill is maybe goblins because they are super fast and can swamp them.

What I usually do is sideboard  a playset of  {Essence Backlash} against mills if I have knowledge of them having a {Consuming Abberation} or two.

[Spikepit]

I know I'm coming to this part of the discussion late, but please no more Jace! Of any kind! I love mill and cantrip as much as the next Esperian but c'mon! Lets see a new {U} character that focuses on one of the other characteristics of {U}.

While we're at it, lets see some new characters across the board! Enough Sorin, enough Lili, hell even enough Garruk! I want two things from planeswalkers, a diversity of characters to evolve plots AND a diversity of planeswalkers to have more than one out at a time in a mono or duo deck.

As you were.

[MarduArrow]

I know I'm coming to this part of the discussion late, but please no more Jace! Of any kind! I love mill and cantrip as much as the next Esperian but c'mon! Lets see a new character that focuses on one of the other characteristics of .

While we're at it, lets see some new characters across the board! Enough Sorin, enough Lili, hell even enough Garruk! I want two things from planeswalkers, a diversity of characters to evolve plots AND a diversity of planeswalkers to have more than one out at a time in a mono or duo deck.

As you were.

This, although I would still like to see more sorin

[Dudecore]

Jace is the Super Mario/Mickey Mouse of the Magic multiverse. He is quite popular with fans, and is basically the face of blue. Chandra and Garruk are the same thing for red and green respectfully. White and Black are swing spots.

[Death Gaara]

I'd like a new Venser, please.

I doubt we will see it. They tend to follow the story line. Correct me if i am wrong, but Venser died to liberate Karn from the Phyrexians yes?

[Death Gaara]

I honestly have no idea. I don't really follow the lore much. If so, damn.

I believe that Venser is dead. I don't follow it closely, but I have a general idea. That is how Karn became Karn Liberated. Venser transferred his powers to Karn or something like that. Allowing Karn to now planeswalk.

[MarduArrow]

I honestly have no idea. I don't really follow the lore much. If so, damn.

I believe that Venser is dead. I don't follow it closely, but I have a general idea. That is how Karn became Karn Liberated. Venser transferred his powers to Karn or something like that. Allowing Karn to now planeswalk.

I thought that was urza?

[Death Gaara]

I honestly have no idea. I don't really follow the lore much. If so, damn.

I believe that Venser is dead. I don't follow it closely, but I have a general idea. That is how Karn became Karn Liberated. Venser transferred his powers to Karn or something like that. Allowing Karn to now planeswalk.

I thought that was urza?

Here

"By the time Venser reached Karn in the core of Mirrodin it was already too late. Melira cleansed the golem's body of the Phyrexian taint but she couldn't cleanse the golem's heart. Knowing his own life would soon be forfeit due to his increasing phthisis symptoms, Venser made the ultimate sacrifice. With his last remaining mana he gave his life and spark to Karn. Moments later Karn was released from the Phyrexian tyranny and mourned the loss of his friend briefly before turning to battle the Phyrexians, stating 'he still has a lot of work ahead of him'.."

Source

http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Venser

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Urea died when making karn.
Venser died liberating him.

Blue could use Kiora.

Nissa for Green.

Elspeth for white

Chandra for red

And Sorin for black

[Langku]

Urea died when making karn.

😂😭😂. Ahhhh. Potty humor. The highest form of funny! Thank you Flicker.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Urea died when making karn.

😂😭😂. Ahhhh. Potty humor. The highest form of funny! Thank you Flicker.

Oh wow, I acually didn't notice auto correct did that!

[Rasser]

Urza died when he sacrificed himself (even though he was just a head at the time) to stop Yawgmoth from taking over Dominaria.

Venser died by giving his heart to Karn, because Karn's heart was infected with the phyrexian oil.

[Birdbrain]

What if theros is a mono-colored block. With lands that do this:

{T}: add {G}{G} to your mana pool

[MementoMori]

Maro implied on his blog just yesterday that lands tapping for more than one mana is pretty unlikely.

Also, this is about M14, not Theros.

[Monrodesign]

I'd like a new Venser, please.

Agree.

Edit: just read up and I need to start following the stories.