I dont understand!

Started by Bman0121, May 06, 2013, 11:19:57 AM

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Bman0121

Why is  {Glimpse of Nature} still 20 bucks it is banned in modern and it hade a suedo reprint  {Beck // Call} which for 1 more mana is better than  {Glimpse of Nature} but  {Beck // Call} is only 2 to 3 bucks do you guys think it will get to be 20 bucks like  {Glimpse of Nature}?


Bman0121

Quote from: KangaRod on May 06, 2013, 11:28:07 AM
2 colour, 2 mana spell is not even close to the same thing as a 1 mana 1 colour spell, even if their abilities are the same.
Is  {Searing Spear} the same as a  {Lightning Bolt}?  {Searing Spear} doesn't even have an off colour as its extra casing cost, it's got a colourless.
Very true +1 from me

Silent1236

Quote from: bravado883 on May 06, 2013, 12:55:20 PM
This is just like {Victim of Night} and {Thoughtseize}. Victim is better in every way...but cost 2 colorless more. 2 colorless makes a $60 difference!

They do totally different things though.

Dudecore

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Quote from: Silent1236 on May 06, 2013, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on May 06, 2013, 12:55:20 PM
This is just like {Victim of Night} and {Thoughtseize}. Victim is better in every way...but cost 2 colorless more. 2 colorless makes a $60 difference!

They do totally different things though.

They're similar in a round about way. You're removing the threat before you have to use removal on it.

{Thoughtseize} is dramatically better in nearly every single way though.

Bman0121

Quote from: Dudecore on May 06, 2013, 01:02:57 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on May 06, 2013, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on May 06, 2013, 12:55:20 PM
This is just like {Victim of Night} and {Thoughtseize}. Victim is better in every way...but cost 2 colorless more. 2 colorless makes a $60 difference!

They do totally different things though.
They're similar in a round about way. You're removing the threat before you have to use removal on it.

{Thoughtseize} is dramatically better in nearly every single way though.
Or he might have been talking about  {Distress}

Dudecore

I don't think meant {Victim of the Night} however, perhaps {Coercion}? It is 2 colorless more, and hits everything unlike {Thoughtseize}

Dudecore

Paying that much for a {Duress} effect is pretty bad, it's why it doesn't see play vs. {Thoughtseize}. While better, it doesn't do enough, especially when you need it.

Bman0121

Quote from: Dudecore on May 06, 2013, 01:21:53 PM
Paying that much for a {Duress} effect is pretty bad, it's why it doesn't see play vs. {Thoughtseize}. While better, it doesn't do enough, especially when you need it.
{Thoughtseize} is waayyyyyyy to much money!

Birdbrain

Quote from: KangaRod on May 06, 2013, 11:28:07 AM
2 colour, 2 mana spell is not even close to the same thing as a 1 mana 1 colour spell, even if their abilities are the same.
Is  {Searing Spear} the same as a  {Lightning Bolt}?  {Searing Spear} doesn't even have an off colour as its extra casing cost, it's got a colourless.
{searing spear} is actually good in a burn deck if you want to cram more burn in. Would you rather have 4 cheap costed cards that do 3 damage? Or 8 cheap costed cards that do 3 damage?

Xaol

Quote from: Birdbrain on May 06, 2013, 05:40:42 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 06, 2013, 11:28:07 AM
2 colour, 2 mana spell is not even close to the same thing as a 1 mana 1 colour spell, even if their abilities are the same.
Is  {Searing Spear} the same as a  {Lightning Bolt}?  {Searing Spear} doesn't even have an off colour as its extra casing cost, it's got a colourless.
{searing spear} is actually good in a burn deck if you want to cram more burn in. Would you rather have 4 cheap costed cards that do 3 damage? Or 8 cheap costed cards that do 3 damage?
Yes, but {Lightning Bolt} > {Searing Spear} any day.

Birdbrain

Quote from: Xaol on May 06, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on May 06, 2013, 05:40:42 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 06, 2013, 11:28:07 AM
2 colour, 2 mana spell is not even close to the same thing as a 1 mana 1 colour spell, even if their abilities are the same.
Is  {Searing Spear} the same as a  {Lightning Bolt}?  {Searing Spear} doesn't even have an off colour as its extra casing cost, it's got a colourless.
{searing spear} is actually good in a burn deck if you want to cram more burn in. Would you rather have 4 cheap costed cards that do 3 damage? Or 8 cheap costed cards that do 3 damage?
Yes, but {Lightning Bolt} > {Searing Spear} any day.
this is true. I'm just pointing out {searing spear} is useful. Though only in a deck that already has {lightning bolt} and is wanting to push more early burn

adventus

This is like comparing a $10 bill and a $20 bill.  Sure, they're both useful, but one is MORE useful.

Vyse

I think I like that explanation the best

Birdbrain

Quote from: adventus on May 06, 2013, 06:56:03 PM
This is like comparing a $10 bill and a $20 bill.  Sure, they're both useful, but one is MORE useful.
so you'd rather have a 20$ bill than a 20$ bill AND a 10$ bill?