Gun control (for school essay)

[Missingkirby34]

I am doing a school project on gun control, we were partnered with another random classmate, and we both had to choose a viewpoint, I got stuck with arguing for gun control. I was wondering what your stand point was and what the reason was.

The other thing I ask is would anyone be willing to lend me their Netflix login info so that I can watch the movie "Bowling for Columbine"

[Gorzo]

Check YouTube - I bet most of, if not the entire documentary of Bowling for Columbine can be found on it.

Gun control is another hot button debate that has mounds of material on each side. You should have no problem finding points - just make sure they come from legitimate and backable sources - both sides of this debate have some total idiots spouting utter nonsense from every hole in their body on the issue.

And the key to debating: make sure everything you say passes the smell test. If something smells a little like BS, it's probably BS.

[Dmreiss]

⬆  Pretty much the best advice you are going to get.  If you watched the last hot button topic, then I would expect this topic could go the same way.

[Wally]

As a legitimate suggestion. Investigate how well gun control worked here in Australia. Sure we have less population than the US, but it's been pretty much 100% effective.
The stigma that America seems to have against gun control is that someone will come into your home and shoot you, and you can't shoot back.
In Australia the gun control removed around 90% of unregistered guns from circulation and controlled the introduction of new guns into circulation. Surely there are some good points you can find in our example.

Good luck.
Ps. I love shooting/hunting etc. but I do not understand the reason for the average suburbanite to have an assault rifle in their house.

[Piotr]

As a legitimate suggestion. Investigate how well gun control worked here in Australia.

You may also study how gun control worked not-so-well in other places such as Jamaica.

For me this is quite simple: goal does not justify the means, never. This comes as a logical conclusion to someone who obeys iMtG Law: you do not break the law in prevention of lawbreaking. The natural law of 'don't do to others what they wouldn't want to be done to them'. I don't want to be forcefully stopped from producing or purchasing or selling any tool whatsoever. Tool becomes a tool of crime not before someone points it at someone else and pulls the trigger, otherwise it is a tool of self defence, a deterrent, a wall ornament, private property, whatever.

[Wally]

I also do not want to be shot in the street, therefore I am happy to deferr my rights to own an assault rifle if it means that the chances I will be shot will be dramatically reduced. I see this as a logical solution. If there are less guns in circulation I have a less chance of being shot. Less = less.

[Wally]

Mind you. If I can justify my reasons well enough to own an assault rifle, I can still get one. (But it's almost impossible, as there is no situation where I can justify it. In this country anyways)

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Wally, I agree with Piotr that sometimes gun control can work.  But only in some places, communism is working for china, or is it socialism...  Same difference, anyway I am happy that things worked out over there!

[#noided]

Your rights to own a weapon are guaranteed by the 2nd amendment to the constitution of the United States.

This.

If you're gonna argue for gun control, make sure to use lots of buzzwords. Might I reccomend "Assault Weapon", "Military Style Rifle", and "Universal Background Checks". While your at it throw out lots of statements that have little factual backup and are largely based off emotions.

[15bm]

The issue for getting gun control passed is the 2nd amendment, which give the average American the right to defend themselves, even from their own gov't. The issue is that by not allowing assault weapons in America, the ability to defend yourself is impeded. That is not to say that an assault rifle could stop the U.S. military, but if I had to defend myself, I would much rather have an assault weapon than a pistol. Also, I am for stricter regulations to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable, but if you pass the background checks, you should be able to get a gun. In my opinion, I want to have whatever gun I want, but never have to use it.

[Wally]

Your rights to own a weapon are guaranteed by the 2nd amendment to the constitution of the United States.

This.

If you're gonna argue for gun control, make sure to use lots of buzzwords. Might I reccomend "Assault Weapon", "Military Style Rifle", and "Universal Background Checks". While your at it throw out lots of statements that have little factual backup and are largely based off emotions.

Plenty of factual evidence that its worked here. You can keep your trolling comments to yourself thanks. It's really not helping anyone. Especially not helping our imtg friend who is asking for assistance.

[Imdowd80]

And make sure to fully understand the second admenment, it it's just enough to bare arms, but it is suppose to be only in a well regulated militia.  Which brings back the question how does one regulate a militia without government intervention.

[NyghtHawk]

Wally, I agree with Piotr that sometimes gun control can work.  But only in some places, communism is working for china, or is it socialism...  Same difference, anyway I am happy that things worked out over there!

if you honestly believe communism is working for china then you have some crazy notion of what works and doesn't. When the government can just force it's people to do whatever they want then you have a serious problem.

[NyghtHawk]

I also do not want to be shot in the street, therefore I am happy to deferr my rights to own an assault rifle if it means that the chances I will be shot will be dramatically reduced. I see this as a logical solution. If there are less guns in circulation I have a less chance of being shot. Less = less.

Of course you have less chance but then what's to say you don't get shot by a pistol, a shotgun, stabbed with a knife? How do you draw the line? Someone makes a bomb? Criminals are criminals. If they didn't have assault rifles, which most criminals don't they'll find another way. Always do,

[Wally]

The issue for getting gun control passed is the 2nd amendment, which give the average American the right to defend themselves, even from their own gov't. The issue is that by not allowing assault weapons in America, the ability to defend yourself is impeded. That is not to say that an assault rifle could stop the U.S. military, but if I had to defend myself, I would much rather have an assault weapon than a pistol. Also, I am for stricter regulations to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable, but if you pass the background checks, you should be able to get a gun. In my opinion, I want to have whatever gun I want, but never have to use it.

I guess we (in Australia) have the advantage of being an island country, and not having the history of a civil war. These two factors allow such a greater difference in the mental thought process of "needing to defend ourselves".

Also in the case of some places in America I understand the need for defending yourself against wildlife (bears, etc)
Here in Australia we don't have anything of that size. If something is going to kill you here, you probably won't see it before it gets you. (Spiders, snakes, jellyfish, etc) a gun won't stop that, and a M4 probably less so.