A commander hand

[Voxsin]

Ok so I want to make 1 more edh deck that's all about winning and I want to try it being 3 color but I don't know who to use and how to make it. My other 2 deck are a  {Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind} and a  {Lazav, Dimir Mastermind} so any help would be nice.

[Dudecore]

Well. First question: what do you like to do? Do you like control? Aggro? Combo?

[izik99]

Zur the Enchanter is the best one for aggressive decks

[Agrajagzz9]

Zur a only good if you are playing one person. In group games he is a target.

Play either  {Animar, Soul of Elements},  {Riku of Two Reflections},  {Karador, Ghost Chieftain}, or  {The Mimeoplasm} for three color generals that are a perfect balence of power and abilities that won't make you a target. The key to winning in edh is to not be the best during group games. Being te best usually means you kill a player quickly ad then everyone kills you. You want your deck to be middle of the pack most of the game but then can immediately jump into things when the dust of the top player settles. I think either  {Karador, Ghost Chieftain} or  {Animar, Soul of Elements} are best for this. Both can help you cast things in their own way, both have great ramp being on green ad each has a few strategies you could use for ending games in a hurry.  {The Mimeoplasm} also isn't bad but depending on how you build it it's may not work. The big blob monster is a great midrange deck because it does everything edh wants. Ramp tutor counter.

Hope this helps

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Animar is a fun general I agree.

[Voxsin]

well Thanks to all of ya

[Wsuryanjeska]

Zur a only good if you are playing one person. In group games he is a target.

Play either  {Animar, Soul of Elements},  {Riku of Two Reflections},  {Karador, Ghost Chieftain}, or  {The Mimeoplasm} for three color generals that are a perfect balence of power and abilities that won't make you a target. The key to winning in edh is to not be the best during group games. Being te best usually means you kill a player quickly ad then everyone kills you. You want your deck to be middle of the pack most of the game but then can immediately jump into things when the dust of the top player settles. I think either  {Karador, Ghost Chieftain} or  {Animar, Soul of Elements} are best for this. Both can help you cast things in their own way, both have great ramp being on green ad each has a few strategies you could use for ending games in a hurry.  {The Mimeoplasm} also isn't bad but depending on how you build it it's may not work. The big blob monster is a great midrange deck because it does everything edh wants. Ramp tutor counter.

Hope this helps

Zur is a target yes, but does that mean he will get targeted? No, because if you are playing him right he will always have hexproof and/or totem armor. Zur is easily one of the best generals.

[Agrajagzz9]

Zur a only good if you are playing one person. In group games he is a target.

Play either  {Animar, Soul of Elements},  {Riku of Two Reflections},  {Karador, Ghost Chieftain}, or  {The Mimeoplasm} for three color generals that are a perfect balence of power and abilities that won't make you a target. The key to winning in edh is to not be the best during group games. Being te best usually means you kill a player quickly ad then everyone kills you. You want your deck to be middle of the pack most of the game but then can immediately jump into things when the dust of the top player settles. I think either  {Karador, Ghost Chieftain} or  {Animar, Soul of Elements} are best for this. Both can help you cast things in their own way, both have great ramp being on green ad each has a few strategies you could use for ending games in a hurry.  {The Mimeoplasm} also isn't bad but depending on how you build it it's may not work. The big blob monster is a great midrange deck because it does everything edh wants. Ramp tutor counter.

Hope this helps

Zur is a target yes, but does that mean he will get targeted? No, because if you are playing him right he will always have hexproof and/or totem armor. Zur is easily one of the best generals.

Yeah cuz getting blown out by clone or image seems good. And yeah everyone would target you it's zur. It's like momir, anyone who has played against him knows to kill him first

[Wackaman9001]

Zur may not be a target, but you definitely will be

[Wsuryanjeska]

Zur a only good if you are playing one person. In group games he is a target.

Play either  {Animar, Soul of Elements},  {Riku of Two Reflections},  {Karador, Ghost Chieftain}, or  {The Mimeoplasm} for three color generals that are a perfect balence of power and abilities that won't make you a target. The key to winning in edh is to not be the best during group games. Being te best usually means you kill a player quickly ad then everyone kills you. You want your deck to be middle of the pack most of the game but then can immediately jump into things when the dust of the top player settles. I think either  {Karador, Ghost Chieftain} or  {Animar, Soul of Elements} are best for this. Both can help you cast things in their own way, both have great ramp being on green ad each has a few strategies you could use for ending games in a hurry.  {The Mimeoplasm} also isn't bad but depending on how you build it it's may not work. The big blob monster is a great midrange deck because it does everything edh wants. Ramp tutor counter.

Hope this helps

Zur is a target yes, but does that mean he will get targeted? No, because if you are playing him right he will always have hexproof and/or totem armor. Zur is easily one of the best generals.

Yeah cuz getting blown out by clone or image seems good. And yeah everyone would target you it's zur. It's like momir, anyone who has played against him knows to kill him first

No offense, but the people I play with don't play moden or legacy, so our EDH decks are really good. We all have RIDICULOUS commanders, combos and strategies going on. It's not nearly as linear as you seem to think EDH is. There is never one general we instantly single out, because we are experienced enough to know that is absolutely heinous, when the balance of power is shifting so frequently. Zur is an amazing general, sure you might get targeted a good amount if he starts getting ridiculous, but when you are playing against a bunch of great EDH decks, it's never going to be as simple as "oh man looks like we all have to kill Zur!"

[Double-O-Scotch]

I have to say, {Zur the enchanter} is one of the fastest generals out of the gate. At the beginning of the game, if someone is playing Zur, that person is in my sights foremost if only because I know from experience how quickly Zur can get out of hand. Now I'm not saying "Zur dies first!" But I sure as hell am not going to leave them alone...lol...

That being said, there are other generals out there that are just as quick and brutal and I guess it all depends on how strong or weak your deck might be against some of them.

However, I already have a score to settle with Zur, regardless of who's playing him, and I'm vindictive like that lol

[Agrajagzz9]

I mean ok yeah your playgroup is the  best your decks are awesome. I know edh an I play it quitefrequently and zur is a great general. Just not in multiplayer. He can keep a single person from interfering in his plans with permission but if someone gets a clone on him it's so hard to recover because you put all the crucial enchantments on him first. They go the the yard and you have lost all advantage. They basically just x for 1-ed you. X being the enchantments on him. Congrats of having a cool playgroup and all but people know enough to keep zur from getting out of hand. Edh is not  liner and that's obvious but zurs strategy when he hits is. Everyone knows what's about to happen. He is amazing 1v1 for sure but that's about it. You can't put you eggs in one basket like that an hope to kill everyone. If you try supreme verdict or merceless eviction is going to make you cry every time. Everyone playgroup has good players so don't disrespect people because you consider yourself a better player or because you have alot of money put in your deck. I have seen budget deck crush value deck on many occasions. Zur might be fine for you and that's cool but I think I'd rather play a deck that is powerful, has synergy with itself and is fun for myself and other to play against. I have played with and against zur and it wasn't fun either way. Edh is about making amazing plays with cards you would never otherwise get to play because of format metas and about the synergy that all of magc has. If I wanted to play a liner deck that won quickly I would play {Vendilion Clique} and a bunh of bounce and counter magic

[iTzTowelie404]

{Doran, the Siege Tower} can be very fun to play and has great synergy with a lot of cards

[Agrajagzz9]

I agree about doran. He is very underrated and can easily mess up a lot of decks strategies just with his static ability. Also he is essentially a 5/5 for 3 mana...

[Wsuryanjeska]

I mean ok yeah your playgroup is the  best your decks are awesome. I know edh an I play it quitefrequently and zur is a great general. Just not in multiplayer. He can keep a single person from interfering in his plans with permission but if someone gets a clone on him it's so hard to recover because you put all the crucial enchantments on him first. They go the the yard and you have lost all advantage. They basically just x for 1-ed you. X being the enchantments on him. Congrats of having a cool playgroup and all but people know enough to keep zur from getting out of hand. Edh is not  liner and that's obvious but zurs strategy when he hits is. Everyone knows what's about to happen. He is amazing 1v1 for sure but that's about it. You can't put you eggs in one basket like that an hope to kill everyone. If you try supreme verdict or merceless eviction is going to make you cry every time. Everyone playgroup has good players so don't disrespect people because you consider yourself a better player or because you have alot of money put in your deck. I have seen budget deck crush value deck on many occasions. Zur might be fine for you and that's cool but I think I'd rather play a deck that is powerful, has synergy with itself and is fun for myself and other to play against. I have played with and against zur and it wasn't fun either way. Edh is about making amazing plays with cards you would never otherwise get to play because of format metas and about the synergy that all of magc has. If I wanted to play a liner deck that won quickly I would play {Vendilion Clique} and a bunh of bounce and counter magic

Have you ever heard of totem armour? I mean seriously? There are multiple cards with it, and It can make Zur live through any form of wrath effect! And if you are in blue, you should counters for things like clone, right? Seriously dude this is what I meant by having a playgroup who takes the format a bit more seriously. You on the other hand, should work on your spelling/grammar a bit first, and then try educating people on the likes of EDH and Zur, the enchanter.