Unlimited wishes

[Birdbrain]

{djinn of illuminations} + {battle hym} + at least 3 creatures in play

[Birdbrain]

{djinn of illuminations} + {battle hym} + at least 3 creatures in play

before I try to pull this on my friend and we get into an argument over whether or not it can work. I'd like someone to say how this would work, and how it uses the stack please

[Mothaelon]

I don't think it works.

Replicate is only works when casting the original spell.

Maybe I'm not understanding it either, but to me it seems like this.

You pay the 2 mana to cast it, in order to cast it via replicate, you would have to cast 2 extra mana at the initial cast of the first one. So you would only be allowed the hymns your mana pool allows. Even though battle hymn would add 3, that's when the spell resolves, but replicate has already resolved as well when the original spell resolves. So you wouldn't be able to play the battle hymns your replicate off each other unless you had battle hymns in hand AFTER all that resolved.

[Birdbrain]

Well how does the {izzet guildmage} + {maamorphose} + {training grounds} combo work? Or {izzet guildmage} + {rite of flame}?
Or {izzet guildmage} + {desperate ritual}? I honestly thought this would work because you can let the spell resolve and copy it again. Then again, maybe replicate works differently. Second opinion?

[Mothaelon]

From what I'm understanding, in order to replicate, you need to pay the total cost at first. Because replicate is part of the casting cost of the spell. So having abilities that add mana to your pool after the spell resolves wouldn't work because that first spell you were replicating has already resolved. I think it's just the ability replicate that prohibits it. Cause with the guildmage, you can constantly recast his activated abilities, even after you add the mana to your pool. Replicate loses its ability to replicate once the original spell resolves.

I think anyways, magic is confusing sometimes.

[Birdbrain]

But you only let the copy resolve. Replicating the original before it resolves. That's my train of thought anyway

[Mothaelon]

Too much thinking.

Brain hurts.

[Birdbrain]

Someone did a combo in the protour with {izzet guildmage} that did almost the same thing. Putting two copies on the stack. Letting the first resolve, then copying it again. But I guess this didnt work with replicate

[Mothaelon]

It could work, I could be way over thinking this.
Lol.

[Birdbrain]

It could work, I could be way over thinking this.
Lol.

it might not work. I could be underthinking it. I'd like a second opinion

[Birdbrain]

I was wrong. This doesn't work

[KulrathKnight]

As previously stated in this thread, replicate is an additional cost you pay when you cast the spell. Once you decide how many copies you want to make, you pay the cost of the spell (which includes the replicate cost for each copy you want).

Once the spell begins resolving it is too late to replicate the spell to keep it going forever.

[Double-O-Scotch]

Every time I read battle hymn, I think of a baptist church congregation...lol
Singing for power...

[xStrayKnightx]

I have to agree with you, Scotch.