Competitive subforum

Started by loop-s-pool, March 11, 2013, 12:45:26 PM

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Desolatus

I guess that the tags are a solution, I just feel like the Standard section will still feel cluttered. But C'est la Vie. Standard's always going to be cluttered. I'm willing to help the new system by following it and leading by example, since that's really all there is to do.

Greg54js

I personally like DC's idea to take Other and make it into a section for competitive only players. This way people know where to find solid fnm, ptq, and gp deck lists and still allowing players to post in standard their own ideas

Dudecore

Quote from: Wizardmook on March 13, 2013, 09:34:12 AM
Net deckers = Sheep

People play the game for different reasons. It's ignorant to say an entire group of people who are psychologically satisfied playing the same game as you, but differently, are worse. You should read this.

Desolatus

Quote from: Dudecore on March 13, 2013, 10:41:37 AM
Quote from: Wizardmook on March 13, 2013, 09:34:12 AM
Net deckers = Sheep

People play the game for different reasons. It's ignorant to say an entire group of people who are psychologically satisfied playing the same game as you, but differently, are worse. You should read this.
This ^

Greg54js

^ I disagree with your position. I've never seen anyone at a gp with headphones in ignoring their opponent. Net decking does draw some life out of the game but certain people enjoy winning above all else and taking a proven deck and slightly modifying it is more fun for them then it may be for you. I know when I played my friend's naya deck which he had built before it became a thing was incredibly fun because it steamrolled all the decks I played including his esper list. Now his list is much similar to naya of gp's and it is still fun to play. So it's all personal preference

Dudecore

People play this game for different reasons. The point of Timmy, Johnny and Spike is the way the designers of this game make cards and market this game to people. "Netdeckers" (Spikes) enjoy this game for different reasons, they like winning and they like the most effective and effecient cards. Spikes don't like Johnny or Timmy because they think those players are wasting their time.

Depending on which side of the spectrum you fall on - you don't like the other players on the other side. It's silly to argue about it. How do you convince someone to value the aspects of this game that they do not value?

My advice would be to post whatever you would like, and put tags in the title if you'd like - or don't. No forum rules explicitly state that you should do so, nor are they likely to ever exist. If netdeckers wanna post netdecks then do so.

I agree with the idea of "competitive" decks not really serving a purpose on this forum - but they most certainly could. I remember when I first started using this app I would often find a card I like in the Card Database, then scroll down and click "Commentary and Criticism" a view decks posted here.

I've play tested easily hundreds of decks from this community while I was lurking. But that was just me - I was netdecking using this forum. Other players like big combos, big creatures, inefficient cards with cool effects, <insert a myriad of other things>. If you feel like spikes ruin your experience playing - then you're playing for the wrong reasons. Playing for money and prizes will ALWAYS bring out people who are interested in those things; that isn't way YOU enjoy the game.

Mikefrompluto

Quote from: Wizardmook on March 14, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
Don't get me wrong i like to see ideas in decks, which fires up my imagination to go to work on a deck. Just copying one because it won a GP is just lazy. Part of the fun is building, one of the reasons I like booster draft because no one can copy an exact draft deck because of too many variables. But if you want to waste money in a souless pursuit of trying to win GP or tourneys with countless other Exact copies of Jund etc be my guest. That's why I play mostly casual now as the games are far more entertaining and fun to see cards popping up in bizarre combos.

Its like you didnt even soak up what DC said hahah. You get joy out of building your own deck, others get joy out of winning and will do it with what is proven to win. Its not being lazy. They just want to win. Noting wrong with it. Like Potticus said in his example. You still have to know the ins and out of a deck, even if it is a net deck. That is in and of itself a craft you have to hone anyways. Personally I could do without net decks but I see that they definitely have their place in this game.

Jacetherican

Net decking may do all things said above, however, think of this for a second.
I go to school fulltime
I am a fitefighter/emt working fulltime
I have my wife my daughter and two dogs
I also have my brothers aunts and uncles to see and be with
I have to work out constantly to keep my self fit for my carrier
I also have to do all the training and prep that my carrier requires
I work 24 hrs shifts simetimes 36 hrs
My days off are not necessary off
People like me just can afford the time ot tales to build a deck from scracht test it play it fix it.

Greg54js

Quote from: Jacetherican on March 14, 2013, 04:11:40 PM
Net decking may do all things said above, however, think of this for a second.
I go to school fulltime
I am a fitefighter/emt working fulltime
I have my wife my daughter and two dogs
I also have my brothers aunts and uncles to see and be with
I have to work out constantly to keep my self fit for my carrier
I also have to do all the training and prep that my carrier requires
I work 24 hrs shifts simetimes 36 hrs
My days off are not necessary off
People like me just can afford the time ot tales to build a deck from scracht test it play it fix it.

While it's true net decking is useful for those whose schedules are busy, sometimes home brewing is as simple as thinking of an idea and writing it down. Then you can always start building the list later. I don't know about you guys but I tend to do my best homebrewing in the bathroom...  it's the place where I get the most time to think and explore new ideas