Maximum Hand Size Question

Started by Coffee Vampire, February 22, 2012, 07:47:40 AM

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Coffee Vampire

If you have the ability to play a card, do you have to if otherwise you would discard a card because your maximum hand size is breached?

Rass

Nope. You don't have to play a card you can choose to discard.

KulrathKnight

If I have a {Gnat Miser} and my opponent has a {Spellbook} out, is his maximum hand size six?

I'm asking because I saw one of the rules says something along the lines of "If two abilities contradict each other, the negation wins" so I'm guessing the answer is yes.

Theroguard

Spellbook take affect first so you would not have
To discard

Theroguard

But that's just my knowledge


Ps. I hate spelling

BlackJester

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 22, 2012, 07:47:40 AM
If you have the ability to play a card, do you have to if otherwise you would discard a card because your maximum hand size is breached?
Maximum hand size is only check once at the end of your turn. At any other time you can have any number of cards

BlackJester

Quote from: Theroguard on February 22, 2012, 10:09:21 AM
Spellbook take affect first so you would not have
To discard
Well, it depends on which came into play first, but one says "your hand size is reduced by one" an the other says "you have no max". So infinity minus one is still infinity. You still have no max hand size.

Bilygote

My understanding in this situation is the last played card trumps the other

BlackJester

Quote from: Bilygote on February 22, 2012, 11:08:10 AM
My understanding in this situation is the last played card trumps the other
I was wrong.  I know, hard to believe, but it was bound to happen sometime.  ;)

{Spell Book} Rulings:
   If multiple effects modify your hand size, apply them in timestamp order. For example, if you put Null Profusion (an enchantment that says your maximum hand size is two) onto the battlefield and then put Spellbook onto the battlefield, you'll have no maximum hand size. However, if those permanents entered the battlefield in the opposite order, your maximum hand size would be two.
   

Wally

No I believe you are still correct in the OP's case.
Infinity less 1 is still infinity.
If it was an absolute number (say, max hand size is 1) then that would be the case, as it was the later modifier in both cases.

BlackJester

Quote from: Wally on February 22, 2012, 01:47:36 PM
No I believe you are still correct in the OP's case.
Infinity less 1 is still infinity.
If it was an absolute number (say, max hand size is 1) then that would be the case, as it was the later modifier in both cases.

Ah HA!  You see?!?  I thought I was wrong once, but it turned out I was incorrect. ðŸ˜,😁ðŸ'

Rass


BlackJester

Quote from: Rass on February 22, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
So two wrongs do make a right
I dunno, but two Wrights make a plane. ✈

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