Angels could be green

[Birdbrain]

Your confirmation bias on this theory is border lining on cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

is there anything wrong with sharing ideas? I'm just responding to the arguments made logically. There's nothing wrong with free speech, or free ideas or wanting to start up an intelligent conversation when your tired of convo's with little depth to them

I never said anything to the contrary. Just pointing it out. Exercise your free speech/ideas all you want, I encourage it.

i try to work on how I sound, and if I can't refute a argument against this idea, I will accept it. Though as long as there is an argument I can refute, I will attempt to to encourage both the other people and me to think more. That's the way these discussions go. And the only reason I used biblical references in the first place was because, lets face it, that's where angels were inspired from. I won't promise I won't refrence the bible, but I do promise I will only refrence it were it counts and as sparingly as possible

[Birdbrain]

And for the record. Green is the only color I've really thought about this way. I'm not sure I could come up with solid arguments about the other colors

[NyghtHawk]

Angels represent good in almost everyone's perception. White also represents good. Hence angels being white. Black is dark and evil in most aspects so that's why you have fallen angel and vampires and such.

Angels aren't green because it doesn't make sense given the perception held by the majority of people.

[Johng4490]

Angels represent good in almost everyone's perception. White also represents good. Hence angels being white. Black is dark and evil in most aspects so that's why you have fallen angel and vampires and such.

Angels aren't green because it doesn't make sense given the perception held by the majority of people.

I actually enjoy the idea of having Angels, even in a good way, appearing in all colors. I agree that by general rule, Angels are good and thus white. But should one delve deeper, say, into Christian stories as is our OP, They appear in all ways. The Angel of Death prior to the exodus of Egypt would certainly not be mentally pictured as anything but black, but it was under God's command. Hence white as well.

I don't know if I'm lending anything here, just thought it would be fun to point out. I actually am working on ideas for a deck based in G/W, but with Bruna, Gisela, Sigarda, Deathpact Angel, and of course Avacyn. Just for the fun of it really.

[Dudecore]

Angels in Magic are created to protect people. As stated before, they are not biblical angels. They fall into Whites color pie.

Green is a primal color. Green denotes instinct, growth and nature - none of which apply to Angels. If there room for some bleed over? Only the things that Green and White share as ally colors. Life gain, counters and tokens.

Angels belong in White, as it makes the most sense for them to be there. Angels are Fantasy tropes, and their inclusion in Magic is that, not biblical.

Green disagrees with blue in Nature vs. Nuture. Blue believes in tabula rasa, the blank slate. Green believes in nature, and nothing is natural about Angelic constructs. Angels are created to protect weaker people and being Heralds of Justice.

If you wanted to argue that all Angels should be colorless Artifacts, I'd buy that to a degree. To suggest they be green would be like saying all Dragons should be blue - because they're intelligent and not rampaging monsters. But Red is the color for them.

Edit: Even creatures like {Angel of Despair} are white, and not full black because - Angel of Despair is not amoral, selfish or paranoid. It just does something White doesn't do like destroy permanents. The Angel Cycle in Avacyn Restored is weak sauce as far as flavor is concerned. The only reason they have other colors is because they do something white doesn't do via the way they decided to divy up in game mechanics.

[Drewy]

Angels in Magic are created to protect people. As stated before, they are not biblical angels. They fall into Whites color pie.

Green is a primal color. Green denotes instinct, growth and nature - none of which apply to Angels. If there room for some bleed over? Only the things that Green and White share as ally colors. Life gain, counters and tokens.

Angels belong in White, as it makes the most sense for them to be there. Angels are Fantasy tropes, and their inclusion in Magic is that, not biblical.

Green disagrees with blue in Nature vs. Nuture. Blue believes in tabula rasa, the blank slate. Green believes in nature, and nothing is natural about Angelic constructs. Angels are created to protect weaker people and being Heralds of Justice.

If you wanted to argue that all Angels should be colorless Artifacts, I'd buy that to a degree. To suggest they be green would be like saying all Dragons should be blue - because they're intelligent and not rampaging monsters. But Red is the color for them.

Edit: Even creatures like {Angel of Despair} are white, and not full black because - Angel of Despair is not amoral, selfish or paranoid. It just does something White doesn't do like destroy permanents. The Angel Cycle in Avacyn Restored is weak sauce as far as flavor is concerned. The only reason they have other colors is because they do something white doesn't do via the way they decided to divy up in game mechanics.

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[Nissassagame]

Angels are good for 1 thing. Dying.

[Coffee Vampire]

I think you will like the flavor text to {Killing Wave}

[whitedrake]

Sorry for my disrespect but until there will be an angel that will have wings created from tree leaves instead of feathers then angels will be always white...

[Piotr]

Nature is about 'eat or be eaten'. There are no natural creatures which care about others, other than their own offspring. The balance you see in nature is the same as mutually assured destruction of nuclear weapons. Greenpeace is a lie

[Majriti]

Your confirmation bias on this theory is border lining on cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

Gtfo latin ecclasia

This debate is pointless and funny, trying to find symbolism in mtg is messed up, it's a game of intellect not spiritual depth, and besides, religion is simply organized spirituality.

How about that pope resignation? Lol

[Revils]

This thread rocks. They should put angels in every color so that everybody will be at peace. Amen.

[Birdbrain]

Angels represent good in almost everyone's perception. White also represents good. Hence angels being white. Black is dark and evil in most aspects so that's why you have fallen angel and vampires and such.

Angels aren't green because it doesn't make sense given the perception held by the majority of people.

MaRo himself said that white does not represent good, and is not all good. And he also said black does not represent evil, an is not all evil

The problem here seems to be that in all the time studying Angels you haven't studied the colour pie of magic.

While in nature you are correct, there is an uncanny order to things, but the colour of green in magic, (while does have some ties to communal order) is most strongly based on following instincts ( or the opposite, of order).

The angels of magic are represented as beings whose purpose is to maintain order, and the colour most closely aligned with that concept is white.

I never said I studied angels. I said I studied nature and by the way, angels are spiritual an not religious, a quality of geen. Green is about nature. And there is inner dependence, here's proof from mark Rosewater himself
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr43

Angels in Magic are created to protect people. As stated before, they are not biblical angels. They fall into Whites color pie.

Green is a primal color. Green denotes instinct, growth and nature - none of which apply to Angels. If there room for some bleed over? Only the things that Green and White share as ally colors. Life gain, counters and tokens.

Angels belong in White, as it makes the most sense for them to be there. Angels are Fantasy tropes, and their inclusion in Magic is that, not biblical.

Green disagrees with blue in Nature vs. Nuture. Blue believes in tabula rasa, the blank slate. Green believes in nature, and nothing is natural about Angelic constructs. Angels are created to protect weaker people and being Heralds of Justice.

If you wanted to argue that all Angels should be colorless Artifacts, I'd buy that to a degree. To suggest they be green would be like saying all Dragons should be blue - because they're intelligent and not rampaging monsters. But Red is the color for them.

Edit: Even creatures like {Angel of Despair} are white, and not full black because - Angel of Despair is not amoral, selfish or paranoid. It just does something White doesn't do like destroy permanents. The Angel Cycle in Avacyn Restored is weak sauce as far as flavor is concerned. The only reason they have other colors is because they do something white doesn't do via the way they decided to divy up in game mechanics.

i ditched the biblical argument. And I see your point. Green is about interdependence, as you can see from the link. And protecting others is interdependence. Guess I just have a different view about angels about protecting people being there nature, they don't have to think about it. They just do it. And as you can see from the article, green is spiritual, and angels are spiritual, so angels could at least fit in green.

[Birdbrain]

And for those that didn't catch it. I basically said organized religion is bad in my first argument

[Majriti]

U could say everything is green then, since its a demons nature to take ur soul or a lightning bolts nature to smoke u to the face. U use the word in a very vague context.