Domri vs. Gideon

All-Mana Mania · February 02, 2013, 07:33:35 PM

Who is better. I think domri is better because if those two were on the battlefield domri uses his ultimate to get the emblem {Domri Rade} and then Gideon is useless. Who do you guys think??

8AuGuR8 · February 02, 2013, 07:36:55 PM

Basically what u said, Domri is awesome, Gideon is horrible.

Bozo_Law · February 02, 2013, 07:57:22 PM

You cannot compare these cards. I think that they are both bad but Domri will see more play.

Quackmaster5 · February 02, 2013, 08:00:45 PM

I just pulled a domri last night and when my friends and I were playing, they ganged up on me to get rid of him bc the card advantage just made him worth it.

InfinitiveDivinity · February 02, 2013, 09:47:16 PM

He's a good PW, his cost is just right in a curve, and his abilities are great in {R}/{G}, also if you can ulty him, well, no need to elaborate on that. I just love 3 CMC Walkers, {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} and {Liliana of the Veil} are also super sick. I think Domri definitely has his place, he just needs to be played in a real deck first, wait a month, people will try to use him. I have a pretty sweet Fight Club deck with him, {Pit Fight} isn't half bad either. Gideon, is, interesting. I've already expressed my feelings on him.

Birdbrain · February 02, 2013, 10:03:35 PM

Think they'll make a one cost planeswalker next?

Dudecore · February 02, 2013, 10:15:19 PM

They're both bad. {Gideon, Champion of Justice} just happens to not do anything, he's like...Turbo Fogs Planeswalker. {Domri Rade} is good, feels very Gruul, he is just ok too.

They probably won't make a 1 mana planeswalker, Tibalt was hated by everyone and set planeswalkers back for a little bit. Doubt they go down that road again.

InfinitiveDivinity · February 03, 2013, 01:06:37 AM

Quote from: Birdbrain on February 02, 2013, 10:03:35 PM
Think they'll make a one cost planeswalker next?

I hope not, Tibalt is horrible.

Boringanarchy · February 03, 2013, 09:18:05 PM

Both are bad IMO. Gideon is just bad in general, totally reliant in opposing player without anyway to defend himself, the tradtitional benchmark for a planes walker. Domri is ok, but I'm not sold on a deck that is creature heavy enough to take advantage of him.

Coffee Vampire · February 03, 2013, 10:32:14 PM

Domri is good in more decks than gideon. That's pretty only comparison you can make because they are completely different. It's like comparing {Counterspell} to {Lightning Bolt}. They are meant for different things, and should be judged on how they do the things that they are meant to do.

I have not tested domri yet. I think he will be great in a naya midrange, maybe jund, but jund runs less creatures. He isn't an aggro pw. In fact, "aggro pw" is an oxymoron. Aggro will use the 3 drop on {Boros Reckoner} and {Silverblade Paladin}. Stuff like that, and then continue to curve out. Though I suppose domri could be in the sb of aggro for certain situations where an aggri deck can't kill a certain type of deck fast enough, so it needs to act more midrange to get more CA.

I did test gideon. Turns out he is only good in 1-2 decks. He sure is fun though. Turbo fog will be my t2 build post gtc, so I like him for that purpose. Basically cast him, fog fog ultimate. You win because you floated 9 mana before ultimate and cast a jace or w/e.

It only works like that against aggro/faster midrange decks though. For the more hardcore control decks, I would side him out and bring in counterspells + a third jace.

All-Mana Mania · February 03, 2013, 10:34:47 PM

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 03, 2013, 10:32:14 PM
Domri is good in more decks than gideon. That's pretty only comparison you can make because they are completely different. It's like comparing {Counterspell} to {Lightning Bolt}. They are meant for different things, and should be judged on how they do the things that they are meant to do.

I have not tested domri yet. I think he will be great in a naya midrange, maybe jund, but jund runs less creatures. He isn't an aggro pw. In fact, "aggro pw" is an oxymoron. Aggro will use the 3 drop on {Boros Reckoner} and {Silverblade Paladin}. Stuff like that, and then continue to curve out. Though I suppose domri could be in the sb of aggro for certain situations where an aggri deck can't kill a certain type of deck fast enough, so it needs to act more midrange to get more CA.

I did test gideon. Turns out he is only good in 1-2 decks. He sure is fun though. Turbo fog will be my t2 build post gtc, so I like him for that purpose. Basically cast him, fog fog ultimate. You win because you floated 9 mana before ultimate and cast a jace or w/e.

It only works like that against aggro/faster midrange decks though. For the more hardcore control decks, I would side him out and bring in counterspells + a third jace.

Yes and I tried domri works amazing with Aurelia since you get two attack phases with his emblem

Coffee Vampire · February 03, 2013, 10:35:55 PM

LOL that's awesome haha. Yeah I had domri ultimate against me one game I had online. Needless to say I lost that one.

All-Mana Mania · February 03, 2013, 10:45:11 PM

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 03, 2013, 10:35:55 PM
LOL that's awesome haha. Yeah I had domri ultimate against me one game I had online. Needless to say I lost that one.

Yea mainly once he has the emblem your done because that is psycho!!!! Double strike, trample, hex proof and haste?!?!?! Jeez

Coffee Vampire · February 03, 2013, 10:46:25 PM

Honestly the haste is what gets me. As long as I have a turn tk respond to things I'm good. But haste? That is a a problem... >.>

All-Mana Mania · February 03, 2013, 10:47:39 PM

Yea it's like oh ok that's good it doesn't have ha.... Wait :O it has HASTE!!!!! I'm dead