Foundry Champion

[Boringanarchy]

Ok, so a question came up regarding whether a creature could deal damage when not present. The player played a foundry champion, which was immediately killed. The player who played the kill spell said that, since the damage was on the stack, the creature was dead an unable to deal damage. He cited a ruling that stayed that if two hunts masters flipped, one could kill the other. In response, mogg fanatic was cited. What is you alls opinion?

[Double-O-Scotch]

The creature "entered the battlefield" otherwise, you wouldn't be able to target it with a kill spell, the ETB of dealing damage equal to the number of creatures you control would still resolve regardless of whether or not it dies afterwards.

[Boringanarchy]

Yes but doesn't that damage use the stack?

[scarsabrex]

On the hunt master ruling. The reason the killed hunt master doesn't do damage is because there are actually two triggers per hunt master. The transform trigger and the damage upon transformation trigger. The dead hunt master never transforms therefore the damage trigger never goes on the stack.

[Fenster]

Bah! You people are impossible!
{Foundry champion}.

[MisterJH]

Bah! You people are impossible!
{Foundry champion}.

Smh some people -.- lmao