Oblivion ring

[ducttapetitan]

My friend says that if there are 3 on the battle field it makes the game a draw.  How could this  be?

[prayos]

Only if they are the only permanents on the field. They create an infinite loop. It's in the card rulings that this app provides.

[ducttapetitan]

Hehe. Sorry i don't have .99 to spare right now

[prayos]

Hehe. Sorry i don't have .99 to spare right now

You can check the rulings online then.  The Gatherer has them.

[Rass]

 {Oblivion Ring}

[Coffee Vampire]

My friend says that if there are 3 on the battle field it makes the game a draw.  How could this  be?

Like prayos said, there must be no other permanents on the battlefield at any time during the loop for the game to result in a draw

So imagine there is Oblivion Ring X in exile. There is one Oblivion Ring on the battlefield, which is exiling Oblivion Ring Y. Now you have an Oblivion Ring Z in hand. When you cast it, you have no other targets but Oblivion Ring Y (since it is the only permanent on the battlefield). So you exile it.

So now Oring Y is exiled by Oring Z. Since Oring X was exiled with Oring Y, and Y just left, X comes back now. And guess what its only target is? Oring Z! Then Oring Y comes back and must exile Oring X, which makes Oring Z come back and start the whole process again!

RESOLVED

[Dudecore]

Auras have to be attached to something, you create an unstoppable infinite loop because they have to keep exiling each other indefinitely since no other non-land permanents exist to attach themselves to.

Uncontrollable infinite combos result in a draw (having trouble finding the ruling in the Comprehensive Rulebook)

The aura rule is how you could cheat {Oblivion Ring} onto Hexproof creatures using {Sun Titan}

[Kaleo42]

O-ring isn't an aura, if it was it would have to have a target in order to enter the battlefield.

[Coffee Vampire]

O ring targets upon etb so I don't think sun titan could pull this one off.

[prayos]

O ring targets upon etb so I don't think sun titan could pull this one off.

What he means is you use Sun Titan to cheat an aura on to hexproof creatures.

[Kaleo42]

O ring targets upon etb so I don't think sun titan could pull this one off.

What he means is you use Sun Titan to cheat an aura on to hexproof creatures.

That cant be done, an aura cant enter the field without a legal target to attach it to.

[Jroch314]

No you can. An aura entering the battlefield that wasn't cast doesn't target. It must be attached to its type tho (cannot attach enchant creature to land). I do believe it's on the rulings of O-Ring.

[Coffee Vampire]

Yes, you can difinitely bring an aura back from the yard and attatch it to a hexproof creature. In fact, if an aura enters the battlefield any way without being cast, it doesn't target. But O ring is not an aura...it always targets when it enters the battlefield beause of its etb effect.

[Dudecore]

I'll look it up when I have more time. There is a convoluted set of rules deal with enchantments and "enchantment permanents". Anyway, you can cheat {Oblivion Ring} onto a hexproof creature with {Sun Titan}.

Edit: nope. It's just auras you can sneak onto Hexproof creatures. :/ ahucks

[Seth5000]

My friend says that if there are 3 on the battle field it makes the game a draw.  How could this  be?

Does this happen to be someone at oak hill is so it was me that said that and I found it in the rulings