Romney or Obama

[cltrn81]

Obama is a traitor and a domestic enemy of the United States.

I would love to hear your argument as to why, so long as you can base it in fact...

[Kerebrus]

Obama is a traitor and a domestic enemy of the United States.

I would love to hear your argument as to why, so long as you can base it in fact...

Yeah people have a habbit of spouting out nonsense like that without backing it up, or if they can they never do...

[Piotr]

Obama is a traitor and a domestic enemy of the United States.

I would love to hear your argument as to why, so long as you can base it in fact...

He is turning US into socialist state.

[cltrn81]

Obama is a traitor and a domestic enemy of the United States.

I would love to hear your argument as to why, so long as you can base it in fact...

He is turning US into socialist state.

Sounds like the republican talking points meant to persuade voters through the peripheral route of persuasion.  I would respectfully say your claim to socialism is erroneous and on the grounds of slander.


Is he taking over all of the privately owned land and making it state owned like Stalin did in Russia after the overthrow of the Tsar?   

👋 I can answer that .... No he is not, he has promoted private enterprise and I welcome any dispute of that fact.


Has he increased the amount of government workers?

👋 I can answer that too .... No, actually there has been a decline and Bush increased the size of government way more than any "conservative" should.


Does he force government to make decisions in our daily lives?

👋 Pick me pick me!!!  No, and I would argue that the republican argument for a lack of birth control or abolishing abortion is more socialist since that would be government telling people what decisions to make about their personal lives .... and you can't say that is not "big" government.


Here lets look at republican plans for drilling oil in America.  They want to drill here but they also argue that oil should stay in America instead of being sold on the international market.  Guess who else does that?  Hugo Chavez.....the SOCIALIST, pretty much dictator, of Venezuela.  Yes they sell on the global market but he their government controls how much stays in the country and how much is sold on the market.  Obama had no plans to do this but many Republicans would like to.

[Piotr]

Obama is a traitor and a domestic enemy of the United States.

I would love to hear your argument as to why, so long as you can base it in fact...

He is turning US into socialist state.

Does he force government to make decisions in our daily lives?

I did not say communist state, I said socialist. Obamacare is precisely forcing decisions which should be left with people, and so is the rest of the regulations which administration is pushing on you.

[cltrn81]

You are right about communism but socialism is just one step below it and Obama is no where near socialism.

Other than the health care mandate I just don't see any of his administration's policies  screaming socialism.  The mandate's inception derived from the Republican Party and Crony Capitalism's desire to make it a requirement for people to purchase health care .... so call the Republicans who created the mandate socialists.

[Mentonin]

Hugo Chavez.....the SOCIALIST, pretty much dictator, of Argentina.

Argentina? You sure?

[cltrn81]

Hugo Chavez.....the SOCIALIST, pretty much dictator, of Argentina.

Argentina? You sure?

Lol my bad ... Venezuela not Argentina .... ranting too fast for my own good lol

I got a C in Geography

[Killin88]

Obama is a traitor and a domestic enemy of the United States.

I would love to hear your argument as to why, so long as you can base it in fact...

He is turning US into socialist state.

I love the owner  yesh

[Piotr]

I was born under socialist regime in Poland.

[ducttapetitan]

You are right about communism but socialism is just one step below it and Obama is no where near socialism.

Other than the health care mandate I just don't see any of his administration's policies  screaming socialism.  The mandate's inception derived from the Republican Party and Crony Capitalism's desire to make it a requirement for people to purchase health care .... so call the Republicans who created the mandate socialists.

Taxes are another example.  Raising the taxes on small buisneses and rich people to pay for the "benefits" the government gives out is just basically spreading the wealth around.  This discourages people to actually strive to work well and encourages laziness and will actually not help the employment rate.  For the upper class, this means that they will be taxed more and more just to keep other non workers off the streets. 

[Karrthus]

Obama is a traitor and a domestic enemy of the United States.

I would love to hear your argument as to why, so long as you can base it in fact...

He is turning US into socialist state.

Sounds like the republican talking points meant to persuade voters through the peripheral route of persuasion.  I would respectfully say your claim to socialism is erroneous and on the grounds of slander.


Is he taking over all of the privately owned land and making it state owned like Stalin did in Russia after the overthrow of the Tsar?   

👋 I can answer that .... No he is not, he has promoted private enterprise and I welcome any dispute of that fact.


Has he increased the amount of government workers?

👋 I can answer that too .... No, actually there has been a decline and Bush increased the size of government way more than any "conservative" should.


Does he force government to make decisions in our daily lives?

👋 Pick me pick me!!!  No, and I would argue that the republican argument for a lack of birth control or abolishing abortion is more socialist since that would be government telling people what decisions to make about their personal lives .... and you can't say that is not "big" government.


Here lets look at republican plans for drilling oil in America.  They want to drill here but they also argue that oil should stay in America instead of being sold on the international market.  Guess who else does that?  Hugo Chavez.....the SOCIALIST, pretty much dictator, of Venezuela.  Yes they sell on the global market but he their government controls how much stays in the country and how much is sold on the market.  Obama had no plans to do this but many Republicans would like to.

i disagree with you on all of this. Now you are rite he has not done any of this, because congress has not let it happened. Now has Obama propose bills that modify our average verdant life and have to do with the point you covered. Yes he has, and thank god congress didn't pass those bills. if you don't believe me take the time to read agenda 21.

[CajunJynx]

Obama is a traitor and a domestic enemy of the United States.

I would love to hear your argument as to why, so long as you can base it in fact...

He is turning US into socialist state.

Sounds like the republican talking points meant to persuade voters through the peripheral route of persuasion.  I would respectfully say your claim to socialism is erroneous and on the grounds of slander.


Is he taking over all of the privately owned land and making it state owned like Stalin did in Russia after the overthrow of the Tsar?   

👋 I can answer that .... No he is not, he has promoted private enterprise and I welcome any dispute of that fact.


Has he increased the amount of government workers?

👋 I can answer that too .... No, actually there has been a decline and Bush increased the size of government way more than any "conservative" should.


Does he force government to make decisions in our daily lives?

👋 Pick me pick me!!!  No, and I would argue that the republican argument for a lack of birth control or abolishing abortion is more socialist since that would be government telling people what decisions to make about their personal lives .... and you can't say that is not "big" government.


Here lets look at republican plans for drilling oil in America.  They want to drill here but they also argue that oil should stay in America instead of being sold on the international market.  Guess who else does that?  Hugo Chavez.....the SOCIALIST, pretty much dictator, of Venezuela.  Yes they sell on the global market but he their government controls how much stays in the country and how much is sold on the market.  Obama had no plans to do this but many Republicans would like to.

Actually, yes, yes, and yes.

In order: the government has been grabbing any land they can lately, partially for the building of railroads and those FEMA camps that don't exist but really do.

He has increased the size and scope of the US as well as continued to allow American agencies to collect intel in American citizens, he re signed the patriot act and sued for the inclusion of indef detention in the newest NDAA.

Obamacare, his administration has also suggested bills to regulate what you can and can not eat or drink in the name of "public health".

Can you name anything he has accomplished that has helped the nation since he came into office?

Like raising the unemployment rates to higher levels than the depression, increasing gas prices, spending more than any president in history, and these are just the most easily fact checked issues...

[CajunJynx]

Also, Obama is a confirmed liar, aside from him claiming to be born and raised in Kenya until he ran for president the first time, admitting then hiding the fact that he is Muslim (which is just silly, because why does his personal religion matter? Why hide it?), his deceleration that all combat actions had ended in Iraq and all the combat troops had returned from Iraq while I was in Baghdad as a combat soldier in an infantry brigade combat team and was ironically engaged in combat at the exact time he made that speech, or his claim to not run for a second term if he didn't halve the national debt, or the same claim only in reference to making more jobs, or his multiple attempts to eliminate the second ammendment, or that he claims personal responsibility for the death of Osama bin laden when Hilary Clinton actually ran the mission behind his back and didn't make him aware until the SEAL team was already in Pakistan....they actually had to interrupt his golf game to inform him...

[cltrn81]

When you bring up the "Kenya" and "Muslim" thing just discredits you since these are just blatant lies and propaganda attempts by conservative/tea party nut jobs.