Manabase

Started by izik99, October 23, 2012, 08:11:00 AM

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izik99

In a RB deck, where there is almost the same amount of black as red, the manabase is:
4 {Blood Crypt}
4 {Dragonskull Summit}
4 {Rakdos Guildgate}
2 {Stensia Bloodhall}
5 {Mountain}
5 {Swamp}

Is it better to keep the guildgates even with the shock+dual lands? Or should i take out guildgates alltogether and put in 7 of each of the basics? 

whitedrake

Honestly I decided to do not play guil gates in most of my decks... They are slowering u a lot...

Fenster

That depends.
I find the gates very helpful in some cases and in others not.
But if you're running many mukticolor spells stick with the gates.
Maybe its just bad luck but i mostly end up with only mana of one color when i really need both.
But if you just have mono colord than atleast you'll always be able to play half of your spells.
If you know what i mean?
But as noted i seem to have terrible luck when it comes to drawing the right lands...

whitedrake

Quote from: Fenster on October 23, 2012, 08:17:17 AM
That depends.
I find the gates very helpful in some cases and in others not.
But if you're running many mukticolor spells stick with the gates.
Maybe its just bad luck but i mostly end up with only mana of one color when i really need both.
But if you just have mono colord than atleast you'll always be able to play half of your spells.
If you know what i mean?
But as noted i seem to have terrible luck when it comes to drawing the right lands...

Mhmm 8 multilands to bi-colored deck is enough I guess... Of course with gates u have better chances but with my "luck" I always draw it when I need to deploy and cast...:D

Mentonin

Depends on the rest of the deck. Mana color weight for each CMC cost, as well as plan of victory and type of spells would change the decision. Which is the deck you are building, is it posted anywhere?

izik99

I'll post it now in standard, called Riot Lord

Also need help with sideboard

Quackmaster5

Those Innistrad lands are junk draws in my honest opinion. You are going to pay 6 for 2 dmg? I understand if you have nothing better to do, but those aren't worth the cost.  Maybe take those out and put my basics for even ratio.

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: Quackmaster5 on October 23, 2012, 10:37:35 AM
Those Innistrad lands are junk draws in my honest opinion. You are going to pay 6 for 2 dmg? I understand if you have nothing better to do, but those aren't worth the cost.  Maybe take those out and put my basics for even ratio.
What does that even mean? What Innistrad Lands, and 6 for 2?

whitedrake

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on October 23, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on October 23, 2012, 10:37:35 AM
Those Innistrad lands are junk draws in my honest opinion. You are going to pay 6 for 2 dmg? I understand if you have nothing better to do, but those aren't worth the cost.  Maybe take those out and put my basics for even ratio.
What does that even mean? What Innistrad Lands, and 6 for 2?

U r not the only one who did not get Quacker...;)

Quack  why are not those ini worth playing...? Ini duals are those that came to game untapeed if u have already basic land of current color in game.. Did not u meam Ravnica shock lands?

edit: but still do not get the sentence 6 for 2...

#noided

Quote from: whitedrake on October 23, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on October 23, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on October 23, 2012, 10:37:35 AM
Those Innistrad lands are junk draws in my honest opinion. You are going to pay 6 for 2 dmg? I understand if you have nothing better to do, but those aren't worth the cost.  Maybe take those out and put my basics for even ratio.
What does that even mean? What Innistrad Lands, and 6 for 2?

U r not the only one who did not get Quacker...;)

Quack  why are not those ini worth playing...? Ini duals are those that came to game untapeed if u have already basic land of current color in game.. Did not u meam Ravnica shock lands?

edit: but still do not get the sentence 6 for 2...

He means {Stensia Bloodhall} <_<

And yes, it's beyond worthless.

whitedrake

Quote from: Gummuh on October 23, 2012, 12:50:49 PM
Quote from: whitedrake on October 23, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on October 23, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on October 23, 2012, 10:37:35 AM
Those Innistrad lands are junk draws in my honest opinion. You are going to pay 6 for 2 dmg? I understand if you have nothing better to do, but those aren't worth the cost.  Maybe take those out and put my basics for even ratio.
What does that even mean? What Innistrad Lands, and 6 for 2?

U r not the only one who did not get Quacker...;)

Quack  why are not those ini worth playing...? Ini duals are those that came to game untapeed if u have already basic land of current color in game.. Did not u meam Ravnica shock lands?

edit: but still do not get the sentence 6 for 2...

He means {Stensia Bloodhall} <_<

And yes, it's beyond worthless.

Hehe dummy dumb I am... Did not notice those lands in the list...:D now I get it... My apologies Quacky...:D

Quackmaster5

No problemo. 😃 I think they are worthless, bc they fill the spot of other lands or other cards worth more. The problem with the Innistrad ability lands is that they not only cost alot, but they require tapping themselves as well so it's an extra land wasted. So you are esentially paying 6 mana for 2 dmg each time you wanna use it. Ya, it's good if you have nothing else, but if you end up with nothing else, you are doing it wrong.