20 lands!?!

Started by Kaleo42, October 10, 2012, 12:06:41 AM

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Kaleo42

I have stopped looking at decks that only run 20 land. Without {gitaxian probe} and {ponder} or the rest of the ridiculously under-costed spells lost in rotation, 20 land is no longer viable in the format.

22 is about as low as a deck can go with the current cards available. The over-all curve of the standard legal cards being played is focused on 2-3CMC where as it used to be 0-2CMC.

Decks are peforming best right now with 23-26 land. Please people! Do not be concerned about drawing land instead of playable cards, your average card costs much more than before and that goes for your opponent as well so dont feel like youre falling behind. The meta is slower now.

*beathe* i feel a little better now. 

Millionlittlee


Kaleo42

We'll see if every third deck posted starts having more than 20 land...but i do feeling better getting that out there. At least now i know I have done my part, and should it continue then oh well the problem is bigger than myself.

Millionlittlee

I like slower decks now what to do with the rotation

MaDeM MaD

You should be runing atleast 23 if your running Aggro. Control shouldn't be anywhere close to 20... 

Wally

What percentage should I be aiming for? (for those of us who don't run 60 card decks lol)

whitedrake


MaDeM MaD

I'd say atleast 35%. if your trying to be competitive in standard than your deck shouldnt be more than 60 cards anyway.

Wally

Yeah but the Timmy/Johnny in me really struggles to limit my deck to 60 cards! It's so restrictive!

whitedrake

:D hehe but noone says u must have 60 cards in deck...;)

MaDeM MaD

Quote from: Wally on October 10, 2012, 08:27:06 AM
Yeah but the Timmy/Johnny in me really struggles to limit my deck to 60 cards! It's so restrictive!

Lol

Kaleo42

The standard enviroment does not boad well for those who dilute their probabilities with over 60 cards in a deck. I am an extreme jank and combo player and i still have not built over 60 in the standard enviroment. Te minimum ensures you a better chance of hitting your fun interactions even if you cant run every single one there is.

Kaleo42

Bump...sadly it has once again become a relevant topic to address.

Fenster

I only run 20 lands if its mono colored and even then rarely!

Willthomjr

Quote from: Kaleo42 on October 29, 2012, 12:43:32 PM
Bump...sadly it has once again become a relevant topic to address.


>.<

Less than 20 lands in standard is no no.