Overrated RTR cards

Started by Willthomjr, October 09, 2012, 10:42:33 AM

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Willthomjr

If you're playing control and waiting till turn 7 to offset an Aggro deck, you're in trouble. And it's not really that great in the mirror either.

You can play better cards for less cmc.

{jace memory adept} vs mirror

Willthomjr

What can I play that's better?

{terminus} {entreat the angels} {supreme verdict} {angel of serenityl}

Just to name a few

CajunJynx

I like it, the cmc makes it adaptable to board presence. I find myself using it on a single target blocker/nasty buffed attacker/taking away an ultimate from a PW  more than using it as a board sweep. At worst it's an expensive {unsummon} that can hit PW's.

CajunJynx

I personally feel {vraska} is over rated.

AgrusKos

I think {Jace, Architect of Thought} is overrated. I just don't see it. Please convince me

CajunJynx

Quote from: AgrusKos on October 09, 2012, 11:21:16 PM
I think {Jace, Architect of Thought} is overrated. I just don't see it. Please convince me
Don't get me wrong. I love this jace, even made a non aggro deck because I pulled two in a sealed  tourney( one in pool, other in prize packs). But I also think the card is over hyped.

Willthomjr

Quote from: CajunJynx on October 09, 2012, 11:25:42 PM
Quote from: AgrusKos on October 09, 2012, 11:21:16 PM
I think {Jace, Architect of Thought} is overrated. I just don't see it. Please convince me
Don't get me wrong. I love this jace, even made a non aggro deck because I pulled two in a sealed  tourney( one in pool, other in prize packs). But I also think the card is over hyped.

He's really good.

He's playable at 4 cmc. His most used ability is his -2 which lets you reveal 3 cards and your opponent puts them in 2 piles...pick the best pile. He's the type of PW that u just kill him with his -2.
Watch some SCG games where people played with him...I don't think he's worth 50$, but he's still really good.

CajunJynx

I will admit that a well played -2 from him one me the RtR release sealed I went too.

Falcon182

Quote from: Willthomjr on October 09, 2012, 10:54:37 PM
What can I play that's better?

{terminus} {entreat the angels} {supreme verdict} {angel of serenityl}

Just to name a few

None of those are instant speed unless you set up the draw on the other player's turn some how.

Gorzo

I agree that {Jace, Arcitect of Thought} is overrated. So he can {Fact or Fiction}. Yeah it's good. But $50? No way. I traded mine for a {thragtusk} and a {cavern of souls}, and I'm perfectly happy. I'll get much more use out of those two.

Willthomjr

Quote from: Falcon182 on October 10, 2012, 12:12:18 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on October 09, 2012, 10:54:37 PM
What can I play that's better?

{terminus} {entreat the angels} {supreme verdict} {angel of serenityl}

Just to name a few

None of those are instant speed unless you set up the draw on the other player's turn some how.

True. But my point was you can play better things for 7 cmc. And with the popularity of of miracle decks, it happens often enough on they're turn.

Entreat the angels is a win con, cyclonic rift isn't.

Willthomjr

Quote from: bravado883 on October 10, 2012, 10:24:29 AM
I will point out that if one player miracles entreat for 7 and the other player has 7 to overload rift...rift wins.

No. You don't play that game. You rift for 7 and I {syncopate} for 1.

See why you don't do that?

cltrn81

Quote from: CajunJynx on October 09, 2012, 11:19:53 PM
I personally feel {vraska} is over rated.
This but I still love her flavor. 

Mikefrompluto

I was stoked when I pulled {vraska, the unseen}. Then I saw it went from $40 to $25 and cried a little.

Willthomjr

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on October 10, 2012, 01:37:17 PM
I was stoked when I pulled {vraska, the unseen}. Then I saw it went from $40 to $25 and cried a little.

Love the idea. Why can't they make all PW cost under 4 or under? Then people would be more apt to play them

We don't talk about {Tibalt the fruit cake}