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Dudecore

Got the new Stephen Colbert book! Not gonna ruin any of the twists

Fishsticks123

Quote from: Dudecore on October 02, 2012, 08:03:09 PM
Got the new Stephen Colbert book! Not gonna ruin any of the twists

PM'ed revealing all the plot twists. JK lol.

cltrn81

I just want to say that from my experience dealing with {Vraska the unseen} in my opinion she is very easy to deal with.  Her ultimate is not that great and also easy to deal with when it pops....{golgari charm} or {Rakdos charm} to name a couple.  Her second ability is great but it takes a lot of turns just to kill even 2 permanents and keep her on the board.  I like her and all and I think she has tons of flavor.....I just see her as a long shot in a competitive type 2 build.

smokin terry

Quote from: cltrn81 on October 05, 2012, 07:04:24 PM
I just want to say that from my experience dealing with {Vraska the unseen} in my opinion she is very easy to deal with.  Her ultimate is not that great and also easy to deal with when it pops....{golgari charm} or {Rakdos charm} to name a couple.  Her second ability is great but it takes a lot of turns just to kill even 2 permanents and keep her on the board.  I like her and all and I think she has tons of flavor.....I just see her as a long shot in a competitive type 2 build.
I plan on use her as a scare tactic with how people are scare of really any planeswalker.

cltrn81

The scare tactic will work against inexperienced players but won't help when you get to the final matches.

Prophylaxis

Quote from: cltrn81 on October 05, 2012, 07:04:24 PM
I just want to say that from my experience dealing with {Vraska the unseen} in my opinion she is very easy to deal with.  Her ultimate is not that great and also easy to deal with when it pops....{golgari charm} or {Rakdos charm} to name a couple.  Her second ability is great but it takes a lot of turns just to kill even 2 permanents and keep her on the board.  I like her and all and I think she has tons of flavor.....I just see her as a long shot in a competitive type 2 build.

I think Vraska is quite powerful. At worst, you're making her +6 and a creature - one with 6 or more power - attacks her and dies. You're one-for-oneing. I would +1, -3 -3. You're trading two cards for one in this instance.

Dudecore

{Revenge of the Hunted} is grossly underrated in terms of those tokens she produces.

I don't view planeswalkers as true threats though, you have several turns before you have to worry about top decking an answer. Or if you have an answer, you can hold it for awhile. It all depends, {Vraska, the Unseen} is an exciting Planeswalker, and is actually playable (which can't be said about most of them), but a threat? I don't know, she doesn't scare me.

Fishsticks123

In my opinion she is good for purely her -2. That is so powerful. Also, got a foil Jace in the last pack of my fifth RTR box. Pretty boss.

cltrn81

Quote from: Fishsticks123 on October 06, 2012, 12:28:04 AM
In my opinion she is good for purely her -2. That is so powerful. Also, got a foil Jace in the last pack of my fifth RTR box. Pretty boss.
It's -3 not -2 ;)
Agreed that her second ability is the best but the fact it is -3 makes it hard to use more than once in a competitive game.  I honestly found the best strategy against her is to ignore her and fill the board with threats since she can only -3 every fourth turn.

Monrodesign

Quote from: cltrn81 on October 06, 2012, 12:40:50 AM
Quote from: Fishsticks123 on October 06, 2012, 12:28:04 AM
In my opinion she is good for purely her -2. That is so powerful. Also, got a foil Jace in the last pack of my fifth RTR box. Pretty boss.
It's -3 not -2 ;)
Agreed that her second ability is the best but the fact it is -3 makes it hard to use more than once in a competitive game.  I honestly found the best strategy against her is to ignore her and fill the board with threats since she can only -3 every fourth turn.

She's a decoy in my book, and with {Electrickery} and other new RtR cards a 1/1 tokens isn't scary.

Silent1236

This forum is overdue for a controversial thread :P.  Not so people can argue and flame each other, but to have a mature debate over something.  I love reading really long threads that are about an interesting, sometimes touchy, subject.  Its neat to see what others think of things.

smokin terry

Quote from: Silent1236 on October 06, 2012, 01:21:50 AM
This forum is overdue for a controversial thread :P.  Not so people can argue and flame each other, but to have a mature debate over something.  I love reading really long threads that are about an interesting, sometimes touchy, subject.  Its neat to see what others think of things.
I agree. I really enjoyed the religion thread for a while.

Silent1236

I didn't pay attention to any of that . Sounds like I really missed out on a debate here recently.

Prophylaxis

Quote from: cltrn81 on October 06, 2012, 12:40:50 AM
Quote from: Fishsticks123 on October 06, 2012, 12:28:04 AM
In my opinion she is good for purely her -2. That is so powerful. Also, got a foil Jace in the last pack of my fifth RTR box. Pretty boss.
It's -3 not -2 ;)
Agreed that her second ability is the best but the fact it is -3 makes it hard to use more than once in a competitive game.  I honestly found the best strategy against her is to ignore her and fill the board with threats since she can only -3 every fourth turn.

+1, -3, -3 is how I'd use her. Her ultimate is irrelevant in most cases.

Silent1236

Quote from: cltrn81 on October 05, 2012, 07:04:24 PM
I just want to say that from my experience dealing with {Vraska the unseen} in my opinion she is very easy to deal with.  Her ultimate is not that great and also easy to deal with when it pops....{golgari charm} or {Rakdos charm} to name a couple.  Her second ability is great but it takes a lot of turns just to kill even 2 permanents and keep her on the board.  I like her and all and I think she has tons of flavor.....I just see her as a long shot in a competitive type 2 build.

Lmao {Rakdos Charm} would be such a troll move! 