Douche move Wizards...

Started by Fenster, October 02, 2012, 10:04:40 AM

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Quackmaster5

It's because wizards is trying to give us all a memo "DON'T ALL PLAY THE SAME DECK!" If you mix up your deck and make it able to adapt to the new cards, then you have no worries. Magic is about adaptation to your opponent.

Fenster

Yeah but this does the opposite. If you have a gy focused deck its hard to sideboard and entire new strategy :P

Greg54js

If you're playing a graveyard deck fine. Its not the main target. The main target are 4000 other people who all play variations of the same deck.

Quackmaster5

Ya but that's the fun part! Wizards realized that players were getting lazy and less imaginative so they hosed it to inspire more creation.

Greg54js

Magic is an inventive and creation based card game. If the players aren't being inventive or creative, wizards gives us a push to ensure we keep inventing and creating. The r&d team is probably sick of delved decks and possibly reanimator decks. So therefore they created hosed cards to get people to think. However, the number of people who actually will use said cards will be people who's meta isn't diverse and sees at least 3 delver decks in top 8 or meta's that see at least 3 reanimators in top 8.

whitedrake

Quote from: Fenster on October 04, 2012, 05:56:06 AM
Yeah but this does the opposite. If you have a gy focused deck its hard to sideboard and entire new strategy :P

Mhmm tell me if I am wrong but you can always sideboard against enchantments or arftifacts...;) do not tell me that you cannot...

Greg54js


Quackmaster5

Exactly! That is why they invented the sideboard. I never even use the sideboard feature because I always love the challenge of overcoming obstacles. It's so much more fun that way! But maybe that's just me bc I'm not a standard competitive player like you guys but the point is that wizards was sick of hearing about delver this, snap caster that, reanimate this, etc. all the same stuff over and over. Where is the fun in that when you walk up to a random player and see the first card he plays and automatically knows what type of deck he's playing. Where's the fun! So wizards is putting the fun back into magic. Either put your thinking cap back on or just wait a few weeks until they post the NEXT deck that is gunna overrun standard.

/rant over.

whitedrake


Richardalcala

Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on October 02, 2012, 02:01:01 PM
What really makes me nervous is the text in grafdigger's cage. Cards can't be cast from graveyards (ok) or libraries (hunh?) what cards can be cast from your library?

There are certain cards that let you play with the library revealed. Then you could cast it from there.   

Richardalcala

Not too sure I see it hosing delver. You can just negate the enchantment of artifact. Cage didn't shut delver down and I don't think this will.

smokin terry

Quote from: Richardalcala on October 04, 2012, 09:04:54 AM
Not too sure I see it hosing delver. You can just negate the enchantment of artifact. Cage didn't shut delver down and I don't think this will.
It can stop their {runechanters pike} and the flash back cards.

ChrisRodriguez

RIP is a cheaper {leyline of the void} cards like that have always been around. It doesn't mean it's gonna change what ppl do. It just means you got to adept to a new strategy. It won't stop delver losing {ponder} and {mana leak} did that. It will just take awhile for ppl to realize it. It will slow down zombies, but that card alone can't beat it. It's the same thing with Frites. There is a lot of enchantment removal in standard. Also remember that RIP works against the person playing it as well. It's not one sided like leyline. These cards are not made to stop just one card as y'all seem to think. Snapcaster is a great card, but there are a lot of good flashback cards and zombie cards. Then there's {runechanters pike} which gets shut down by {dryad militant}. I think pike being the default best equipment in standard now that the swords are gone needed an other way to hate on it other then destroying it. {Tormond's crypt} is an weak graveyard hate card. We needed more. And we got it.

Fenster

Quote from: whitedrake on October 04, 2012, 06:43:51 AM
Quote from: Fenster on October 04, 2012, 05:56:06 AM
Yeah but this does the opposite. If you have a gy focused deck its hard to sideboard and entire new strategy :P

Mhmm tell me if I am wrong but you can always sideboard against enchantments or arftifacts...;) do not tell me that you cannot...
Yeah but then whats the point of having sideboards at all? "Ill sideboard against your sideboard against my sideboard!"
Id rather see a matches being decided by the best stratetgy rather than who has the right sideboard.
Also i dont understand why they just dont ban delver in standard if thats the problem of deck diversity!
/Rant ranty rant rant!

Fenster

Without causing further stiring of the beehive my point is that instead of printing cards that affects whole ways of playing the game to control a small portion of a rotating format wich could be handled much better. I understand why {rip} is printed. But i consider it uneccecary. And a little bit too obvious and simple sideboard material. The only actual use for the card as i've seen so far was someone here making a {misthollow griffin} combo.