Douche move Wizards...

Started by Fenster, October 02, 2012, 10:04:40 AM

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Double-O-Scotch

What really makes me nervous is the text in grafdigger's cage. Cards can't be cast from graveyards (ok) or libraries (hunh?) what cards can be cast from your library?

Fenster

"Some cards are too strong, lets makea card that not only counters said card but a whole way of playing magic instead of just banning the card that is currently op in a rotating format!

smokin terry

Quote from: Fenster on October 02, 2012, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: smokin terry on October 02, 2012, 12:44:18 PM
I haven't seen diversity since the shards block rotated. Since then there haven't been more the 3 different deck build I've heard about at one time. I haven't seen any change.
Exactly. At my lgs now however its 75% delver -_-
Can you say caw-blade or valakut. Those where the same at my old lgs.

There really is no diffrance that I see.

Disturbed1jwh

Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on October 02, 2012, 02:01:01 PM
What really makes me nervous is the text in grafdigger's cage. Cards can't be cast from graveyards (ok) or libraries (hunh?) what cards can be cast from your library?

I'm guessing one of the cards that it says can't be played from library would be {call to the kindred}?

BlackJester

Every deck, every strategy has a silver bullet.  Every time MtG gives a strategy, they also include a counter-strat to keep it in check.
This card also hoses Morbid too.

Why is no one crying that {Rakdos Charm} hoses horde strat?

This card in isolation doesn't benefit the player, in only stops many different strats out there. It's colored, so not all decks can support it. Either counter it or {Naturalize} it. You have the tools to deal with this card people!

ChrisRodriguez

Jester is right about hoser cards. There always gonna be around. I think {rest in peace} was printed more for zombies, self-mill, and frites decks. Those are the decks that got stronger and I think wizards printed {rest in peace} for that and not for {snapcaster Mage} alone. Snappy is just one card. It will always be a good card. Delver decks are something that will not be as good as it was once was. Once ppl start to realize that you will see it drop off in play.

smokin terry

Quote from: BlackJester on October 02, 2012, 02:41:02 PM
Every deck, every strategy has a silver bullet.  Every time MtG gives a strategy, they also include a counter-strat to keep it in check.
This card also hoses Morbid too.

Why is no one crying that {Rakdos Charm} hoses horde strat?

This card in isolation doesn't benefit the player, in only stops many different strats out there. It's colored, so not all decks can support it. Either counter it or {Naturalize} it. You have the tools to deal with this card people!
Thank you very well put.

KulrathKnight

Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on October 02, 2012, 02:01:01 PM
What really makes me nervous is the text in {grafdigger's cage}. Cards can't be cast from graveyards (ok) or libraries (hunh?) what cards can be cast from your library?

It stops things like {Green Sun's Zenith} from pulling creatures from libraries to play. Also, I'm pretty sure it shuts down {Descendant's Path}.

Hays413

Damn, doesn't say when {rest in peace} leaves the battlefield return those cards, they stay exiled. So for two mana, you can hose any GY interaction. Or am I wrong and they come back as an implication? (Doubt it)

ChrisRodriguez

Quote from: Hays413 on October 02, 2012, 09:38:12 PM
Damn, doesn't say when {rest in peace} leaves the battlefield return those cards, they stay exiled. So for two mana, you can hose any GY interaction. Or am I wrong and they come back as an implication? (Doubt it)
No coming back

Hays413

Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on October 02, 2012, 11:22:34 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on October 02, 2012, 09:38:12 PM
Damn, doesn't say when {rest in peace} leaves the battlefield return those cards, they stay exiled. So for two mana, you can hose any GY interaction. Or am I wrong and they come back as an implication? (Doubt it)
No coming back

Knew it, just doub checking.

BlackJester

Quote from: KulrathKnight on October 02, 2012, 08:00:23 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on October 02, 2012, 02:01:01 PM
What really makes me nervous is the text in {grafdigger's cage}. Cards can't be cast from graveyards (ok) or libraries (hunh?) what cards can be cast from your library?

It stops things like {Green Sun's Zenith} from pulling creatures from libraries to play. Also, I'm pretty sure it shuts down {Descendant's Path}.
Shuts off {Future Sight} too.

Xanzurth

Again I love both cards. Love side boarding in the cage against Delver and wiping the .poo. eating grin off thier smug faces. Just like {Lotleth Troll} is gonna do. Cuz now we have a 2 powered creature to kill Giest and regen/ or get bigger. 💩😁

whitedrake

Have no idea why some of u cry for some card that's ruining ur strategy... It was always like that... Since I remember there was always some contra combination against every combo deck...

The game is about flexibility...;)

Fenster

Its just so obvious this time. And besideswe already have {Grafdigger cage}!
It feels like overkill thats all.